The World According to O. Fecteau: Bon Mots and Pot Shots

[ofecteau]

Its a spectacularly beautiful day here in Berkeley; summer weather in late October, unlike the cold, fog and rain of July. Some thoughts occured to me as I was pedaling around the Marina:
Negatives:

1) Good Lord, but this forum has gone to shit. Back in the day, it was a place for the lively exchange of ideas. Well written posts were the norm; full of thought, wit and pathos. You looked forward to what your peers had to say, and responded with care.

Now, under the current cabal of leadership, it has become a seedy discount catfight  basement bazaar and a gathering place for silly misfits, all in the guise of what is somehow a family-friendly environment to soothe the skittish fetishist.

Legendary posters such as Diogenes, Dionysus, G.R., AcademyBruce  and the ever-irascible Bunk are on shelf. Now we have serial sillies such as Petelv, who in real life is probably a sweetheart, but unquestionably an absolute dolt, and the libertarian libertine Fightfanatic, who will forever be looking up at Pete.  Posters such as these have laid waste to whole sections of this forum. I mean, have you looked at the General Discussions section lately? Its like a chapter from "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest" with Fightfanatic as Martini and Pete as Chief Broom, but less eloquent.

2) I takes a special kind of enthusiast to call himself an Ultimate Surrender fan. You really have to hate women.

3) Can the women of Catzreview get any less attractive?

4) I hope Catfightreport calls it quits. No one has labored harder with less positive results than my man Ringo. If he steps back, maybe he can appreciate the damage he has done to his stated mission of mainstreaming our shared interest.

5) I miss Anna Jayne. Her affair with the Bunk was one of the funniest things ever. All of Wales must have mourned.

6) I don't know what is going on with DWW. The last few dozen fights Guenter put out, and his advancement of the "wet" fight, were,I think, his best ever. I mean, have you seen EVA v Pia or Mary-Ann v Luna? I am guessing he has gotten tired of fighting the pirates.

I will miss him greatly, but as long as Mary-Ann returns to FC as Anessa and Eva matriculates there as well, and Hana continues her appropriated version of the wet fights, I'll be OK.
 
But here's to you, Guenter. You were always the smartest guy in the game. No question.

Positives:

1) While the overall quality of forum posts is way down, there is still the continued excellent content of JohnMoog and my man Sketch. John's thoughtful wit and gentle chiding  would have been appreciated in any era. Sketch is Sketch; a genuine legend. He packs more punch in one post than Petelv has in 4195. I always look forward to reading these two.

2) FC needs some diversity. Hana needs to find the Asian version of Juliana. Maybe Kim-Ly slimmed down about 20 ponds would be a start.

3) I find myself so disenchanted with video production outside Central Europe that I have turned to other outlets. I have always admired the work of Merlin (Merlin's Kingdom). Idealized women as hot as can be drawn in impossibly erotic combat. Check out Lydia, his latest creation. To me , far more stimulating than any current videos outside FC.

4) Very soon, some Asian producer is going to get it together. Someone in Hong Kong or Macao. Hot Chinese, Japanese and Vietnamese and Philipine women fighting each other and a few Caucasians as well. Sort of like Foxy Combat Asia with Merlin-like combat scenarios. I'd gladly pay $100 plus for videos like that.

Until then, I'll just sit back and watch old stuff and buy only FC. I simply will not pay for anything else I see out there.

[njcatfan]

excellent post and I hope this encourages some sensible debate, I can't write a long piece myself right now but this captures up the mood in the catfight world nicely.

There seem to be two types of fans of catfighting, those that like the fights and watching them and those that like to participate ie play in the genre via cyber fights. I think that recently the closure of yahoo 360 and subsequent demise of yahoo has led to the latter group becoming dominant on here. Not a problem but this does mean that sensible discussion and debate has given way to challenges of cockfights and 'come and fight me bitch'.

I used to use this site to gather information on where to look in the industry for new material and new companies. Now however we get the same few companies spreading cheesy drivel and no discussion.

That ponders the question, where are all the serious fight fans, have they gone, retired moved elsewhere or given up trying to push water uphill

I used to put a lot of effort into writing stories but stopped as I got very little positive constructive feedback and I think this is the same for most writers.

This site has definitely gone downhill for the serious fans taste but it is not too late to change this

[Paulzzy]

 "That ponders the question, where are all the serious fight fans, have they gone, retired moved elsewhere or given up trying to push water uphill"

  Can't speak for everyone, but my interest level has dropped considerably in recent years.  I prefer the older work from my favorite companies...some have closed up shop, others have changed their product.

  Haven't even been checking out new companies anymore.  Don't know if I've lost faith or if I've just seen enough. 

  I'd rather watch my DVD collection of my favorite VHS tapes from the late '90s and early 2000's-which FOR ME was the "Golden Age" of women's wrestling videos.

[MountainMayhem]

I have a few words for you Big O  since you enjoy spouting off in this forum, casting your slanderous BS toward any producer who doesn't match up to your expectations.....   Not everyone is here to please YOU.  Everyone has their own fantasy and fascination of the "perfect catfight"  You have formed these expectations in your mind....we all have and then like any other "addict"  you try to chase that fantasy  hoping to find the right one that will satisfy what you have constructed in your imagination.  Most likely you will never find a perfect match but then like a spoiled child who hasnt got his way, you go off on a rant how horrible the producer must be that he did not satisfy your craving.

There are so many aspect to the "female fight fetish"  it would be impossible to be all things to all people.  Individual tastes are simply too diverse.  Some like loud screaming and moaning, others want quiet panting.  Some like fierce belly punching while others are turned off by any punching.  Trash talking...love it or hate it..no middle ground.  So I try to produce a style that I like and can manage to do....apartment style wrestling/catfighting.  Some stuff is fully scripted while others is pretty much ad lib wrestling. I push the girls to do their best but safety comes first. I dont want anyone to get hurt.  I've actually been asked how much would it cost to see teeth get knocked out...well thats not going to happen. And besides, I personally dont like the brutal extreme or street style fighting so I wouldnt produce that anyway

My question to you....since you fancy yourself the resident expert on all things in this forum....Why dont you produce your own?  Maybe you have..but I've dont see Ofecteau Productions anywhere?   I arrogantly thought since I had seen so many catfight vids that surely I could do better than most on my first try.  I quickly learned that scheduling females to be at the same place at the same time is damn near impossible.  Then you have equipment, location, expense, delays etc. Even experienced wrestlers come with their  personal quirks that come in to play at the shoot..which ultimately effects if you have a successful match.

Its real easy to spout off how much a company sucks, but until you have done this you have no room to talk no matter how many vids you have seen.  And even when you do offer your boisterous opinion, that doesnt mean the company is bad or ripping people off as you have so accused just because they didnt meet your style

So if this forum is less than desirable in its content, maybe its because people are sick of the negativity of people like you and your multiple personalities who are so quick to drag everyone down. 

[Capital City Catfights]

MM, has a good point. If you are in this business, you will be amazed at the types of requests you see coming in. There are many different types of fans out there. Studios like Bout Time and Double Trouble have been around longer than ECNWC, so there must be people out there that like both types of catfighting.

What might actually advance a conversation would be saying things like "I like real fights, check out XXXX. This really seemed to be good." or "I love panty hose and this fight works for me."

Oct, you started your post with negatives before positives. That really is not the best way to communicate with people.

Take all the shots at my company that you like. MM and I know we are not trying to please everyone, but we are trying to please enough people to keep our companies up and running. And I know I am doing that.

I see you really like Gunter and DWW. Do you know the story about why he will never try to bring his girls to work in America? It has something to do with a message board and callous behavior of a certain poster. So when I say playing nice on here is the best thing to do for the overall industry, I probably am correct.

Have you ever wondered why he does not post here?

If anyone has dealt with me, they will understand that I am about promoting this fetish. Slamming producers or individuals is not the way to do it.

[MountainMayhem]

Constructive criticism can be a great thing.  I welcome suggestions all the time if I think it could help improve my product I will take it into consideration.   Some things you do have control over and we all want to do the best we can, we just each go about it a different way.

What ticks me off about you Ofecteau is you claim you bought my product...though I dont know under which identity so I can only trust you did.  Then out of the blue, I see this raging rant on how horrible MMC is and how you wish you could get your money back and you go on and on spewing your filth...while not once  saying exactly what you like for your favorite style.   Even when I posted in my response to you my email address, you never replied.   So basically you didn't have the balls to email me and give me your thoughts or give me a chance to make it right if possible.  Instead you jumped on your computer to start bashing, hoping that anyone who read your slander would stay away from my company.  I think that these forums are a useful tool for customers to know if a  website is providing poor service or may not be functioning properly but people need to be careful in their efforts to destroy the works of others in the name of informing fellow fans..... someone may post..."that website stole my money because I signed up and it quit working"....only to find out that the server was offline for a day or so  which happenes from time to time.  If someone steals money from  a custom request then sure they should be exposed for it.

Like CCC says, why not start by telling us what your interests are then praise whatever company you think is the best match for you.  Maybe even offer  a suggetion to those that dont, encouraging them to try something different but dont go trying to ruin their reputation. And dont expect that someone will change just because you suggest it. 

   

[Mandarin]

Who says you can no longer have a debate on this site!!!!  Looks to me like a pretty good one

[HB]

Although the message board contents can be bewlidering at times,  and heaven knows if I see one more post about "foot lickin' butt smelling action" I may harm someone ...I have to say the original post seems to be quite full of bluster and arrogance.  Just more  of the I- am- a -smarter-internet-guy-than-you BS.
 
"Yea verily, I do find your whacking material quite lacking, sire. A pox upon your house for not giving me proper wood and living up to my fetish standards "   .


There is no "sensible debate" to be had on this thread. 

[JohnMoog]

Unlike Ofecteau, I evidently missed the golden age of this website.  I’ve known it only as it is today: a discussion forum that abhors discussion, a catfight site where any minor interest in catfights is drowned out by a pervasive online transsexualism fetish, a venue for producers of erotic content shamelessly to display their utter lack of erotic vision.  Which is all to say, Catfightreport is in his element here.

In the rich tapestry of imbecility that adorns this place, one thread merits special ridicule: the defensive ad hominem swipe at the critic for not producing his own videos.  Without being a chef, I can criticize the taste of a restaurant’s food.  Without being a manufacturer, I can criticize the sound of a piece of audio equipment.  And without being a producer, I can criticize an erotic video based on its eroticism or lack thereof.   

[njcatfan]

ah well I tried to contribute but it seems a few people are just falling out as usual hey ho !

I will though build on some of the points above...

It is a well known psychological fact that porn is exciting because it stimulates the body's endorphins which lead to arousal, much like exercise (ok not arousal but same mechanic)  It is also well documented that in order to continuosuly get aroused the same level of material does not work, if ypu watch the same porn again and again each time it is less arousing.

This could explain why certain companies appear to have a finite time in the market as the brain gets used to their type of material and the viewer seeks new ways to entertain themselves. Maybe this applies to the cyber fighters and posers on here too who have to find new ways to excite themselves.

It definitely is a difficult industry to maintain excitement and this is true of all fetsh interests.

I'm not knocking people and I guess i'm not provocative enough to make people respond lol

[SketchArtiste]

Unlike Ofecteau, I evidently missed the golden age of this website.  I’ve known it only as it is today: a discussion forum that abhors discussion, a catfight site where any minor interest in catfights is drowned out by a pervasive online transsexualism fetish, a venue for producers of erotic content shamelessly to display their utter lack of erotic vision.  Which is all to say, Catfightreport is in his element here.

In the rich tapestry of imbecility that adorns this place, one thread merits special ridicule: the defensive ad hominem swipe at the critic for not producing his own videos.  Without being a chef, I can criticize the taste of a restaurant’s food.  Without being a manufacturer, I can criticize the sound of a piece of audio equipment.  And without being a producer, I can criticize an erotic video based on its eroticism or lack thereof.    

Although I sincerely doubt the slings and arrows of these producer's discontent bother or shake anyone's resolve (especially Ofecteau's), it's interesting to note that I've been hearing this same pathetic bullshit excuse for years and years.  These idiots don't know anything about GR except how lacking they are of his vision and talent.  When I read posts from morons that think Maureen and Dee (fictional characters from Cavalier magazine Fight Time letters of 25 years past) are actually posting on this board, it pretty much sums up many of the points Ofecteau illuminates.  A number of you producers have taken large piles of "Mountain Mayhemic Crapitol Shitty" sized dumps in what you thought was a dark room. Since you know many FvsF fans can't detect the stench of your idiocy until after they've charged their credit cards, your strategy (in lieu of dire needed potty training to improve your product) is to try and demonize the one guy in this forum who consistently turns the light on in the room and points your crap out before everyone steps in it.  How's that working out for you guys so far...?


SA

[ofecteau]

  Haven't even been checking out new companies anymore.  Don't know if I've lost faith or if I've just seen enough. 

 

Paulzzy, I’ve seen enough.

I am no longer even looking at domestic sites. It’s a complete waste of time. These guys currently operating are never going to get any better.

Domestic producers: look at your stuff, be it the anti-erotic short-span slapfest of CCC or the absolutely cynical retro horseshit of Mountain Mayhem. Then look the contemporary work of DWW and FC, andf the older work of Joan Wise, California Wildcats, and Academy. Now take another look at your stuff. Then back again to master’s material as easily available and at the same price.  If you can’t tell the difference, God help you. Be assured we can.

The last straw was a purchase from Mountain Mayhem. I had recently been very impressed with a 3 fight series from Academy featuring Tia Ling (versus Jasmine Chou, for whom I have rarely had nice things to say but she was really impressive in bringing out the best in Tia). So when I read all the hype from the MM sycophant Jonnyyuma about how great  Mountain Mayhem was, and that they had a couple matches featuring the fierce Ms. Ling, I took the plunge.

What I failed to take into account were 2 equally important facts: that Academy, their style, commitment, attention to detail and quality control (all set into place by the Great Master  Bruce) produced great erotic content, and that Mountain Mayhem had regressed to the old  Triumph Studio format and even fucked that up.

Bruce and crew took Tia Ling and produced wonderful erotic content.Mountain Mayhem took the same performer and turned out unwatchable crap.

There is an old joke that the only man to consistently hold Michael Jordan under 20 points a game was his college coach Dean Smith. I did not think it was possible to render unerotic a Tia Ling performance, but Mountain Mayhem managed to pull if off in spectacular failing fashion. I don’t even remember the opponent, as I have long since deleted this hot mess, but the video consisted of Tia trying to make something of a foe who just laid there and moaned. Worse than an APL video. It had no business being released for money..

If you guys can con one time buyers into wasting their money on your products when new and recent FC and DWW content is available, and its easy to find quality older stuff, its just a straight out con job. Keep producing the crap you do, and you will find more and more fans taking the road Paulzzy and I are on. And don’t be surprised when others shout  at you in forums such as these, especially those who are just looking for some quality escapism in these hardscrabble times, buy your products, and wail “What the fuck?!!!!”

[MountainMayhem]

So I want to illustrate my previous points  by using what Ofecteau has said about me  and others.   It seems we have an intollerace for variety.  The fem fight fetish is extremely broad but since I am not like academy or DWW then I must not know what I am doing...etc etc. and deserve the explicatives cast upon me.  I'm not trying to be like them, I dont even like that style.

 But lets take his example of Tia Ling and my vid.  Her opponent by the way was Mia Malee...very soft spoken and sweet girl and her first time doing this stuff.  In that match, Mia was supposed to be the sweet innocent jobber, not really put up much resistance, just take the punishment.  Pretty much thats what she did.   OK  so Big O is disappointed because Tia was not offered much of a fight.  I cant help that.  But in turn, I have seen Tia's material at Ultimate Surrender and was not very impressed.  Not because Tia did poorly but because I do not subscribe to US's style.  That doesnt mean she is bad or US is bad  it just means its not for me.  Big O likes DWW style better than mine  so be it.  Tia says she has received positive feedback from her fans and Tia's vids are some of my top sellers.  So judgement has been cast on me for 1 or 2 vids.  I currently have 25 released.  Yes I have my style but each vid I try to do something a  little different.

Oh by the way, I just worked with Tia a couple weeks ago, she is lactating now from her recent pregnancy.  So I wanted to do something a little different since there are very few real lactating wrestling vids out there.   I'm sure Big O wont be first in line to get that one but I thought I would mention it.

Again I just dont understand the hatred and intolerance.

[fightfanatic]

So if this forum is less than desirable in its content, maybe its because people are sick of the negativity of people like you and your multiple personalities who are so quick to drag everyone down. 

What he said.

[fightfanatic]

Oh by the way, I just worked with Tia a couple weeks ago, she is lactating now from her recent pregnancy.  So I wanted to do something a little different since there are very few real lactating wrestling vids out there.   I'm sure Big O wont be first in line to get that one but I thought I would mention it.

Now that's one I am interested in, that's the one with the milk spraying all over the camera and such yes?