why do you want to catfight?

[Brit_brat]

Absolutely,

The key word is "choose".  If I chose then fine.  I have absolutely nothing against women making their OWN choice to fight irl.  We all have our own choices to make in this life and we live with the consequence of our choices.  I choose to smoke, I have to live with the consequences. No one persuaded me to smoke, no one persuaded me to come to this site........ my choice.  I am not judging anyone that makes their own choices, what I am having a huge problem with is others persuading others to make choices to serve their own selfish ends and not having to live with the consequence of those choices.  Having said that........... in the long term they will as bad choices affect everyone not just the person making the choice. My bad choices in this life affect my family, affects those around me, affects taxes, affects drain on health service ........... not too different really to fighting when you rationalise it out. 

Brit

[SketchArtiste]

I think these conversation threads often take a wrong turn when one person seems to be trying to convince another that their viewpoint is either wrong or less appropriate than some other viewpoint.  If watching 2 women physically beat, bruise or maim each other gets you off then by all means own it. Just don't try to turn it into some innocuous afternoon T-Party or cocktails on the patio event...because it's not, especially when you have to persuade and convince your wife or GF to participate.   I won't say it's wrong but I will say it's not my cup of tea.  In addition, my personal and  sincere belief is that any man that becomes sexually aroused watching another human being beaten, bruised or maimed is probably sexually frustrated.  Before I continue, PLEASE do not Ms. Interpret this to be a reference to guys who ask or persuade their GFs or Wives into FvsF irl, because that's NOT what I'm saying.  In addition, my compulsions and joy of FvsF has absolutely nothing to do with what "those" guys like.  This observation shouldn't be seen as being about "judging" as much as it is about drawing a distinction between fetish content, in much the same way as I'd draw a distinction between FvsF and Female Foot-Food Squashing fetishes.  I'll often respond if I think what I've said has been Ms. Categorized or Ms. Interpreted.  Other than that...

I have to agree %110 with Britannica's original post.  If the wife or GF doesn't already have a fetish or compulsion for FvsF, I don't buy the "...I eventually persuaded her" BS.  She persuades "you" (generally speaking and not specific to any poster) to buy jewelry, dinner and gifts. You persuade "her" to give you a BJ. She persuades you take her to the Opera.  You persuade her to allow you a Boys Night Out every now and then.  This is all BS to me.  I don't feel any need to persuade any woman to do a damn thing she isn't already interested in doing.  So given the  high likelihood of her man watching FvsF events featuring other possibly younger, fitter maybe more attractive and sexually aggressive women in various states of undress getting his dick hard without her being there...it's probably not much of a "choice" for her. I mean why tempt fate or the husband's resolve not to reallocate their finances to a FvsF vixen for servicing his compulsions?  That being said,  before anyone thinks I'm angling for the Sensitivity Soul Awards or trying to plot a new Summer's Eve commercial, let's understand something:
 

The ONLY reason I don't like or enjoy Watching 2 women punch, scratch, slap or physically maim one another is simply because it doesn't get me aroused...It never has and possibly never will.

However, I  don't lump FvsF MMA into this category because I completely understand these matches as being a competitive match between 2 consenting women...but until the good looking ones

1. Start holding these matches topless or in thongs
2. Start and end the action on the on the ground in C2C instead of standing
3. Replace the punching with breast and crotch grabbing (I know...kind of a long shot)

 ...it probably won't hold much interest for me.  I clearly admit  my compulsion is simply based on what I find arousing without any attempts to be PC.  That being said, let's not fool ourselves into thinking women don't pull the same "persuasion" shit on men.  All those jewelry, flowers and dinners aren't being purchased simply out of the goodness of the male heart (and YES...it's primarily MEN or women who look like men who are buying shit for women...even though it's often guys using their wallets to get somewhere they don't think their Dicks will reach).  I think society has this Ms.Guided notion of monogamy that pressures many of us to try to experience every sexual compulsion or desire with or through our significant others, when (Truth-be-Told) it might be much healthier to simply make a distinction between what we can enjoy with our wives and GFs and those activities which may be better suited to being "outsourced".  I have a dream...and that dream is that one day Man and Woman will walk down the street hand-in-hand and leave behind them the shackles of MOnogamy as they move towards the dawn of a new day and embrace the beauty of  HOnogamy.  Thus ends this Tuesday evening's sermon...please place your tithing  in the tray and pass it along to the person sitting next to you.  Amen.



SA

[liverlad]

sketch your opinions are always valid and respectful but once again you are going too deep dont take topics so serious sometimes its just light hearted fun love ya man

[SketchArtiste]

"sketch your opinions are always valid and respectful but once again you are going too deep dont take topics so serious sometimes its just light hearted fun love ya man"

...you're a "Senior Member" (?) which speaks volumes about this forum.  So listen up...I've been a FvsF connoisseur and posting on the net about it for many many moons.  This isn't a criticism but just something that you may want to be aware of because a great many people that read and/or respond to posts aren't always interested in the mundane banal superficial diatribe that usually comprises the thread title.   A lot of your titles and threads seem some to consistently revolve around the "What happens when..." or "How would you..." or "What do you wear..."...and that's ok.   However, you mAy waNt to keep in minD that many of uS are interested in cOmmeNting and discussing things at depth because we're no longer interested or amused hanging out in the shallow end of the gene pool...where the wit well so often runs very dry. 

Liverlad, everyone geTs somethIng differenT out oF postInG and reading otHers posTS.  I commend you on starting threads that, more often than not, inspire others to engage and get into discussions...but this is a forum - NOT twitter or facebook.  Every post or response doesn't have to be some byte sized bit of fluff or quick quip.  My comments, while admittedly long-winded, aren't very deep...but it's been my experience that conceptual depth is always a matter of perception which is usually in proportion to one's mental height.  Trust me...when I'm in the mood for shallow, no one can be more "shallow" than moi.  Keep on posting but remember that there are people that have been doing this a HELL of a lot longer than you and we all have different depths, perspectives and range...work with what you can and ignore the rest.   That usually works for me.  Enjoy your Tuesday! ;-)

SA

[hondab07]

Have a nice, nice day

[SketchArtiste]

"I am a guy who loves his wife, <blah blah blah>.....and I read about women getting maimed and beaten and bruised and messed up for life irl........I am just wondering...what does this have to do with what I am talking about???"

GREAT Question HBO!  The Answer:  Absolutely NOTHING.  You and your wife's enjoyment of her participating in and you watching FvsF matches has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with guys who get off watching women being beaten, bruised or maimed.  As far as I'm concerned it's two completely different topics.

"What, you think we don't love our wives and just want to see them beat the hell out of each other? Are you crazy?"

Hmm...now before I tackle this question I may need to ask if English is your 2nd or 3rd language?  It's possible you may have some difficulty with basic reading comprehension skills, and if that's so, please pardon my reiteration of what I stated earlier in the 1st paragraph of my post.

"In addition, my personal and  sincere belief is that any man that becomes sexually aroused watching another human being beaten, bruised or maimed is probably sexually frustrated.  Before I continue, PLEASE do not Ms. Interpret this to be a reference to guys who ask or persuade their GFs or Wives into FvsF irl, because that's NOT what I'm saying."

HBO...Quite frankly I couldn't give a rusty shit whether you love your wife or feed her to wolves and watch her being shit over a cliff every other weekend.  If you say you love her I have no reason (at this point) not to take your word for it. However, after specifically posting the disclaimer above, I'm wondering why you even felt the need to pose your 2nd question?  Keep in mind I completely understand the 1st question...but the 2nd one is unnecessary.   If you and your wife enjoy her participating in FvsF more power to you.  Hell...that's most men's  fantasy (...if the men are into FvsF)!  

My comment about "not buying" the "I eventually convinced or persuaded my wife/GF to  try FvsF" BS was not specifically directed at you or your comments.  That being said,  I often find it more than a little curious that we always see the BF or husband logging on writing the stories instead of the woman. Generally speaking, if most women actually enjoy FvsF with the same enthusiasm as their significant others, why is it that we so seldom hear from them?  I don't find anything in your posts about your wife and FvsF that is even remotely abusive.  I don't see any references to her being bruised, maimed or brutalized so...I'm not exactly clear about the particular entomology of the bug that's crawled up your crack.  

Be that particular mystery as it may, there are so many opportunities to be offended in this forum that you should never feel the need to take offense where none is warranted, especially when someone's taken the time to post a disclaimer.  Just keep posting and sharing your experiences.  This forum is very open and there are a lot of folks that want to hear what you and others like you have to say.  If you care to, I'd strongly suggest starting a thread talking (in detail) about one of your wife's matches.  Go into detail with regards to what she and her opponent were wearing as well as what happened during the match.  In the event either your wife or her opponent were Bow-Wows please feel completely free to lie and make them smokin' hot for the sake of the story retelling. ;-)  I look forward to your future posts.  Thanks!  


SA

[MaskedBunny]

I'd like to point out that I'm responding without reading Sketch's two posts so if I repeat anything he said, I apologize.  However, I just got home from work and my brain wouldn't comprehend it right now, though based on what I've read of his, I have no doubt in my mind that it's a very sane/sound post that makes sense.

@Brit: I agree with you to a point, and then I disagree.  I do agree that a man shouldn't force his wife/gf to fight if she doesn't want to.  And if he keeps trying, he's a sick son of a bitch who's abusive and controlling or selfish.  And the woman should leave him.  However, not every man is like that.  Not every wife fighting is because they're forced to.

Some women legitly love to wrestle/fight.  I imagine it's the same reasons that anyone loves any sport.  I don't mean any disrespect when I say this, but you seem to hold this view that every woman who does this only does it for money or because their man is forcing them to, when it isn't.  I could probably name about 5 wrestlers off the top of my head who do it for the love of it.

I also would like to note the irony that you're a pacifist, but your hobby is fighting online.  Usually when I think pacifist, they don't like violence in the media or entertainment, because it promotes violence.

On a side note, I hate violence too, when not done in the right conditions.  I don't consider wrestling or rules catfighting really violent if it's done sanely.  Unless you have a bad opponent, the chances of you getting seriously injured aren't that great.  About the same as playing baseball or basketball or something.  Fist fighting/NHB is something that never appealed to me.  I don't get it, though I imagine it's no different than UFC if done right (which I love UFC).  And I guess as long as its done right so no one gets killed, it's ok.  Though you'll never make me like it.

However, I do feel that violence is sometimes necessary in the real world outside of fighting.  We don't live in a perfect world.  Though we aren't here to discuss that.

[Brit_brat]

Hi,

Can I take us all back to ondabo07's first post where he stated
"My wife, who was never in a fight in her life, has had several matches with a couple other wives over the past several years. And, yes, it was my idea, and it took quite a while before she agreed to try it"

Lets not loose sight of this. This is the original comment that rose my hackles.

I would be very interested indeed to know Hondabo07's age. - quote

" am still waiting for all the dire consequences and the impending Armageddon of watching two wives have fun wrestling in a safe and sane way...where everyone is best friends before and after....and we all have a great time and can't wait to do it again! "

Believe me or believe me not there are consequences, my poor choices in life have brought me consequences and no one is exempt from this.

Moving on Masked Bunny its well worth reading  SketchArtiste's posts. They are thought provoking, logical and have humour.

SketchArtiste you make some very valid points and have refocussed my thoughts to looking at myself and how I "persuade".  Always welcome.

However, sorry to say, notta chance on havin me put money on the offering plate, I will however take it round and collect money providing i can have 50%. Deal or no deal?

Brit

[hondab07]

Hahaha

[liverlad]

sketch ever heard the expression,sarcasm is the lowest form of wit?you give out opinions and put people down ie i should nt be a senior member,titles might mean the world to you but dont to me,insulting another member by asking if english language was there 2nd or 3rd language dont for one minute think your above me or you ll be in for a shock by the way have a nice day

[Brit_brat]

"My wife, who was never in a fight in her life, has had several matches with a couple other wives over the past several years. And, yes, it was my idea, and it took quite a while before she agreed to try it"

I rest my case. Unless I am not understanding the English language correctly.  Still interested to know the age of the writer above but do not suppose he will care to reveal cos this would answer a lot of my questions.

You two guys come back to me in twenty years time and tell me your choice was a good one, then I will believe you.

Actually............ on a believing note, I cant seriously believe that any woman would fight for you two guys......... i think its fantasy on your parts not reality.   And before you jump, no I am not putting either of you down with that remark, ie looks, personality etc more to do with your powers of persuassion or lack of them.  I actually think that for a woman to be "persuaded" by a guy he has to have a very strong personality, be very controlling/assertive and have all the self confidence in the world. Neither of you two guys have those traits............ and thats not a bad thing

Brit

[SketchArtiste]

"SketchArtiste you make some very valid points and have refocussed my thoughts to looking at myself and how I "persuade".  Always welcome.

However, sorry to say, notta chance on havin me put money on the offering plate, I will however take it round and collect money providing i can have 50%. Deal or no deal?"

Brit

Thanks Britannica!  Hmm...so I guess that would make you my PIMP?  In that case it's deal and a pretty good one at that.  Most Pimps take more than %50 so I'll consider myself lucky.  Just keep in mind, I draw the line at beatings, unless of course I can "persuade" a  surrogate to take the beating for me... ;-) I may already know a couple of "volunteers".  Have a good one!

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"Sketch, I just love the way you sarcastically put others like myself down, then bring the compliments and good wishes in at the end. My reading comprehension level is pretty good, and at no time did I state that my comments were directed at anything you had to say."

Others like "yourself"?  So far it's only been you and LiverLass...at least for the last 2 years. Be that as it may - let me refresh your memory HBO:

"...and I read about women getting maimed and beaten and bruised and messed up for life irl........I am just wondering...what does this have to do with what I am talking about???"

Posting 101: When you take a direct expression from someone's earlier post and immediately follow it with the inquiry "what does this have to do with what I'm talking about", you're implicitly directing your comments at what that poster is saying. Hey - I've got an idea!  Why don't you "persuade" your wife to log in and post a couple of accounts of her FvsF matches...since she loves it as much as you do???

"Sketch, I just love the way you sarcastically put others like myself down, then bring the compliments and good wishes in at the end."

Although sarcasm wasn't what I was aiming for...thanks for the love HBO. I'll call your love and raise with my sincere appreciation for all the opportunities you (and especially LiverLass) provide for entertainment.  Please keep up the great work guys and have a GREAT Wednesday! 

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Ahh...and last and almost certainly least: LiverLass.  It's such a joy to see you putting multiple words together into more than one sentence that doesn't terminate into yet another moronic byte sized brain deafening dick spit dumb diatribe the likes of what one might expect from an 8th grader living at home in his step-mom's basement (no offense to 8th graders)...so here goes.

"sketch ever heard the expression,sarcasm is the lowest form of wit?"

No...but if you hum a few bars?  Of course...Thank you for sharing that expression. In the spirit of generosity please allow me to share an expression with you.  When I originally read your post I thought for a minute that you might be hostile or malicious...and then I remembered the expression

"Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity."

"you give out opinions and put people down ie i should nt be a senior member"

If you can point out anywhere in my previous posts where I stated you shouldn't be a senior member, I'll send you a $100.00 MO to the PO box of your choice. This might be a great time to  share another expression with you.

"A guilty conscience needs no accuser."

Of course I post my opinions and comment on those of others. We all can't come up with such thought-free provoking inquiries as "Alabama Bitch stop hiding from my mate..." & "Joanne the wrestler what a joke, she needs to eat more" and who could ever forget the mentally challenged "all female so called catfighters on this forum r fake they make it up"?  BTW...the last time I checked punctuation was free...you may want to look into getting some?

",titles might mean the world to you"

Hmm...well, you're successfully robbing any meaning that may have been associated with the title "Senior Member"  ;-)

"insulting another member by asking if english language was there 2nd or 3rd language"

Au Contraire Mon Ami...Most of the people I know with English as a 2nd or 3rd language would've actually been able to read and comprehend my original disclaimer. What you perceived as an insult was actually a compliment...perhaps inappropriately placed.

"...dont for one minute think your above me or you ll be in for a shock"

For starters...unlike you, I think for longer than one minute before posting the 1st thing that comes to mind.  For instance, I don't want to jump to any conclusions but - Did you actually mean to use the word "Your" or the word "you're" as in "You are above me"?  Are you aware that the word don't arrives with punctuation?

Since your (as in "you"...not "you are") showing up to a war of wits without any ammunition is completely expected, the only way you could shock me is by  actually starting a remotely intelligent thread with a genuine interesting and thought provoking topic...please by all means SHOCK me baby...Shock me...!  Now let's all get back to talking about FvsF...if that's OK with you LiverLass?



SA

[Bear]

I've always enjoyed Sketche's comments and diatribes, particularly back when we were posting on Barb's now defunct messageboard.  What most of you folks here don't realize is that he's mellowed. 

[SketchArtiste]

...and the "Senior Member" stock has just shot way back up to the top!  Bear has got "my number".

SA

[vanessa-25]

Hi.  Umm.  I was gonna answer the original question but no one seems to care... I like catfighting!  Woo hoo!