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General Category => Catfight Web Sites & Sources => Topic started by: maine516 on September 19, 2022, 07:30:20 PM
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I'm looking for input from those of you old enough to be pretty familiar with the Crystal Films videos, especially fans of Maylay, the former hostess and fighter who was very popular with many of us. I recently came across a photo on DeviantArt that shows there was definitely another scripted fight between Maylay and Vivian that was filmed several years before their fight in "Grandma's Grudge". They are both younger and Vivian's hair color is still all black. Their fight is in the very same basement room setting as "Brooklyn Brawl" featuring Vivian vs a blonde named Erika. I recognize in the photo the same couch, floor and wood-paneled wall that was in Brooklyn Brawl and it's definitely Maylay and Vivian. The photo is likely from the later stages of the fight as they are on the floor with Maylay on top and they are both down to only garters and stockings. It's a great pic and I'm thinking it must have been a really good, scripted fight, possibly better than Grandma's Grudge.
I've seen all of the old Crystal Films video magazines and have never seen this fight as I most certainly would have recalled it. I've been searching all of the current sites that feature Crystal Films videos and have found not even a hint of this match. I sent a note to the person who put the photo on DA asking if he knew where he obtained the photo, which would hopefully lead to a CF video name. He appreciated the question and sent me a link to a catfight website but all that should up was Grandma's Grudge. I've sent him a follow-up question and am waiting to hear back.
Do any of you know anything about this earlier fight between Maylay and Vivian? My suspicion is that it was filmed but possibly something happened, like the film was damaged and not re-shot. But yet it is very strange that only one pic of this fight has shown up anywhere, that is to my knowledge. I'm anxious to hear any information anyone might have about this fight. It would be really something if it could be tracked down, even if it's just some more photos, which must exist.
Please check out the photo on DeviantArt. It was posted by "SamChamp". Just scroll a few pages down his site and you'll see it. This photo alone is worth adding to your Maylay collection.
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Can't find it
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I'll try to upload the pic here. I don't see any reason why I can't, but out of courtesy to the person who put it on DA, I just sent him a text asking if it was fine with him. I'm pretty sure he will say no problem. Then I'll post it here.
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You can also find the pic on DA by typing in "MILFTitpin" in the search bar. I just did it and the pic shows up in the third row, about a dozen pictures in.
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got it thanks
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Great! Do you know anything about this earlier fight between them, or is this new to your knowledge too?
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I had no idea that those two had filmed an earlier fight. Never saw it, and Crystal never mentioned it. Would love to see this photo. I've tried everything above to access it, but can't find it.
The making of Granny's Grudge was inspired by someone asking Crystal (via their website) to produce a fight with two older women, one of whom would be Malay. The folks at Crystal said that they weren't sure that they could find an opponent for her. I suggested Viv. Their response was that this seemed like a good idea, and that they would try to find her to see if she had any interest. There was no mention of a previous encounter, except they threw out the usual, "I don't think that they liked each other." Great promo.
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Bear, if you want, send me a personal message here with your email address. I'll email the photo back to you as an attachment. I want to post the photo here, but I haven't heard back from the "artist" on DA. I'm sure it's okay to post it here in general, but I'd prefer for him to say ok first.
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Bear, if you want, send me a personal message here with your email address. I'll email the photo back to you as an attachment. I want to post the photo here, but I haven't heard back from the "artist" on DA. I'm sure it's okay to post it here in general, but I'd prefer for him to say ok first.
Thanks Maine. You can reach my email through this website. If not, no worries. I'll wait.
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Some more pics from this set!
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I assume that that is a photoshoot for the catspats magazine and may not have been a filmed fight.
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These are fantastic! I always lived their "Grannies Fight" video. I'd love loved to see this as a video as well.
Thank you so much for sharing all if this.
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Great find and post! Thanks for this.
Clearly this is a photo shoot and not pics of a real match. That's why there's no video. Still, the staged spectacle of these two going at each other is truly classic IMO. It just makes me wonder why Crystal didn't produce a real (scenario) match between them until years later with Granny's Grudge. I guess we'll never know.
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Thanks so much, gmenn, for posting all these great photos! In fact, seeing them triggered my senior brain to recall that I've seen them before, a long time ago. Like others said, it was likely a photo shoot. I'm fuzzy on this, but I don't think they were stills in any of the CF video mags, but rather in paper magazine form. I think CF put out a paper magazine called "Catspats" and that could be where I saw them originally. CF was in New York and there was a video store in NYC called "Famous Sports Videos" (I think on 39th street) that sold a ton of female fighting "vhs" videos and magazines in the back of a fairly large store. I love all these mature women fights CF did with women like Maylay, Vivian and several others so it's great to see these photos here.
I'm posting the photo I found on DeviantArt here now too. The person who put it on DA said he had no problem of course with my doing that. It's the same one as the last photo posted by gmenn, only it's a colorized version.
I'm also posting 3 photos I've had for a long time of another CF catfight that takes place in the same room as the Maylay vs Vivian photo shoot. You can recognize the same couch covering, floor and side wall in the background. I don't know anything about it or who the 2 women are (I suspect the blonde might be the same Erika from the Brooklyn Brawl video). Or maybe this was also a photo shoot, not a video. If anyone knows more about this fight, or has more pics from it, please feel free to let us all know.
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The file size was too large for one of the other 3 photos (453kb), so I'm trying again here with 2 of them.
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Don't remember seeing this one. Thanks for the pics
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I'm very glad you liked this photo shot. There is no video but only pictures.
Having you appreciated then I publish the color version.
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Last 3. Sorry if some pictures are duplicated, but Crystal published them in different sets on their old website.
It is clearly a posed set but it is really exciting and depict a catfight that matches perfectly my fantasy.
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Fantastic pics, gmenn! Thank you so much for sharing. I think this is a great fantasy fight too. It's also a very good photo shoot. Maylay was still fairly young at this time, and she looks sexy and amazing. As Bear said, it's puzzling, and a shame, that Crystal didn't produce a real scripted catfight between these two when they were both there at that time. Vivian did have a scripted catfight with the blonde Erika in this same room right around the same time as this photo shoot, which makes that loss even more puzzling. As Bear also said, we'll likely never know what happened.
Did you notice that one pic (238pho07) is from a different photo shoot - it's the same room, but it's Vivian vs a blonde, who I'm pretty sure is Erika in Brooklyn Brawl.
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Did you notice that one pic (238pho07) is from a different photo shoot - it's the same room, but it's Vivian vs a blonde, who I'm pretty sure is Erika in Brooklyn Brawl.
Yep! You are right. Evidently I saved this pic in the wrong folder. Thanks for your warning!
It belongs to this set!
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Thanks again, gmenn, for more great pics! I probably came across these pics too way back in the days of Crystal's Catspats magazine. I'm glad you have them.
At least with Vivian and Erika, CF did make a catfight video in this same room (Brooklyn Brawl). Erika did not go in for full nudity though. They really should have made a catfight video with Maylay vs Vivian, who would both have fought in full nudity. Why they didn't is a mystery and a big loss.
These are great photos though of ordinary, mature, full-figured women engaging in all-out, private, wild and dirty catfights. Hot fantasy stuff!