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Video => Live Action Clips => Topic started by: lover.catfight on July 11, 2018, 04:10:57 PM

Title: Help me with this, please!
Post by: lover.catfight on July 11, 2018, 04:10:57 PM
Hi, all!

I know I already posted this in other thread, but I'm still hopeful...

Does anybody know the Producer, girls or the name of the video this clip comes from?

http://biqle.com/watch/316170398_456239020

Thank you!
Title: Re: Help me with this, please!
Post by: T aka Tony on July 11, 2018, 06:00:48 PM
I like what I see. Two soft thick mature women going at it. I hope you come up with something. Love to see the entire fight on a Full Screen

Tony
Title: Re: Help me with this, please!
Post by: Driver47 on July 11, 2018, 10:07:16 PM
One of those great unsolved mysteries of the catfight world so many have put this clip up even i have put it up. But its great to be reminded of it we all want to see the complete fight for this and where to buy it. Happy hunting
Title: Re: Help me with this, please!
Post by: Catfight Super Fan on July 12, 2018, 07:12:34 AM
Il tinello e il rastrello by Daniele Cianciolo! Best movie aver!!!
Title: Re: Help me with this, please!
Post by: lover.catfight on July 12, 2018, 03:31:40 PM
Il tinello e il rastrello by Daniele Cianciolo! Best movie aver!!!

What? :o
Title: Re: Help me with this, please!
Post by: catfightlover40 on July 13, 2018, 01:46:57 AM
One of those great unsolved mysteries of the catfight world so many have put this clip up even i have put it up. But its great to be reminded of it we all want to see the complete fight for this and where to buy it. Happy hunting

In my nonfetish fiction, I'm mainly into writing crime fiction, not the hardboiled type, rather the more intellectual types, but I'm still bound by strict rules. Real life mysteries, provided with sufficient information aren't unlike constructed ones. Here's what we do know, this snippet comes from a digitized VHS tape, which you can see on the quality, and also because there's a second of color correction and missing sound in the beginning. So, in the world of pirated for profit clips being made entirely available, why would this be stuck under 2 minutes?

Here comes the educated guess part. As some of may still remember, before there was a clips for sale website, and several producers selling the whole thing for download, only sample clips were provided. This could come from one such production, presumably from a title that could have one of three qualities: it never sold, so only the clip testifies it existed. It did sell, but only physical copies are being traded. It sold well, but the remaining owner or owners do not wish to share or admit owning it.

If digitization had been done by a professional editor working from a master tape, we wouldn't see the technical issues I mentioned above. As such, this could have been made off of a private copy as a teaser for a trade. Since video technology in camera recording, before the event of the laserdisc has only evolved to the level presented by the late '80s, having that cross-referenced with hair coloring solutions that don't discolor or damage the hair, I'd put the recording no sooner than 1985/86. Since that was still the Cold War, and or not many private channels yet (especially porn cable chains in hotels), I'd guess the producer is American. It wasn't shot on a commercial property, as the blinders put up were there to prevent potential onlookers. That either means a cheapskate producer, or the more likely small production company.

If I were hot on the trail on this one, I'd look up small producers between 1985 and 1995 who since then have gone defunct in the States as a start.
Title: Re: Help me with this, please!
Post by: fleuger99 on July 14, 2018, 01:28:17 AM
Hot little clip.
Title: Re: Help me with this, please!
Post by: loozzeer58 on July 14, 2018, 05:13:19 PM
Seem one video of Crystal video producer here the link:
https://www.crystalcatfighting.com/agecheck
Title: Re: Help me with this, please!
Post by: lover.catfight on July 16, 2018, 08:26:31 PM
Seem one video of Crystal video producer here the link:
https://www.crystalcatfighting.com/agecheck

Thanks for the suggestion. Checked all videos, but no luck.

Anyway, again, thanks for the suggestion.
Title: Re: Help me with this, please!
Post by: T aka Tony on July 16, 2018, 10:24:38 PM
Thanks for posting the Crystal link!

Tony
Title: Re: Help me with this, please!
Post by: Bear on July 16, 2018, 10:28:21 PM
Try Fighting Wildcats -- Marie vs. Jen

https://www.clips4sale.com/studio/33405/fighting-wildcats-hd-videos/Cat0-AllCategories/Page2/ClipSize-asc/Limit10/search/FEMALE+WRESTLING
Title: Re: Help me with this, please!
Post by: lover.catfight on July 17, 2018, 07:39:48 PM
Try Fighting Wildcats -- Marie vs. Jen

https://www.clips4sale.com/studio/33405/fighting-wildcats-hd-videos/Cat0-AllCategories/Page2/ClipSize-asc/Limit10/search/FEMALE+WRESTLING

No. This is not the match I'm looking for, although it is alike: similar girls and similar intense action. Even more,  one of the girls (the tanner one ) has a  tattoo on her left butt very similar to Jenn's.

Thank you for posting.

The search continues...
Title: Re: Help me with this, please!
Post by: catfightlover40 on July 17, 2018, 09:17:06 PM
Try Fighting Wildcats -- Marie vs. Jen

https://www.clips4sale.com/studio/33405/fighting-wildcats-hd-videos/Cat0-AllCategories/Page2/ClipSize-asc/Limit10/search/FEMALE+WRESTLING

It'd have been very unlikely.  It's not speculation, but a fact, that the video, from which the clip is from, was made with a camcorder transferred to a VHS tape. While camcorders are hardly in use anymore, VHS is only used by those, whose legal obligation requires that their footage cannot be altered, like casinos and banks. Small time producers, but even bigger ones in the porn industry have long switched to digital as scenes can be recorded again without losing the film or degradation. Whoever produced this, it was done decades ago and I don't think Fighting Wildcats was around back then (also they use digital). There's a snowball's chance in Hell it is a contemporary movie which for some reason was "retrofitted" for VHS, but that alone would cost more than just simply shooting it with today's technology.
Title: Re: Help me with this, please!
Post by: lover.catfight on July 18, 2018, 12:19:00 AM
Try Fighting Wildcats -- Marie vs. Jen

https://www.clips4sale.com/studio/33405/fighting-wildcats-hd-videos/Cat0-AllCategories/Page2/ClipSize-asc/Limit10/search/FEMALE+WRESTLING

It'd have been very unlikely.  It's not speculation, but a fact, that the video, from which the clip is from, was made with a camcorder transferred to a VHS tape. While camcorders are hardly in use anymore, VHS is only used by those, whose legal obligation requires that their footage cannot be altered, like casinos and banks. Small time producers, but even bigger ones in the porn industry have long switched to digital as scenes can be recorded again without losing the film or degradation. Whoever produced this, it was done decades ago and I don't think Fighting Wildcats was around back then (also they use digital). There's a snowball's chance in Hell it is a contemporary movie which for some reason was "retrofitted" for VHS, but that alone would cost more than just simply shooting it with today's technology.

Thanks for the post. I'm afraid you are right. It looks like coming  from an old VHS tape. I also tried searching in Rockin-Roxanne site, but no luck either.  :( :( :(
Title: Re: Help me with this, please!
Post by: catfightlover40 on July 18, 2018, 01:48:43 AM
Try Fighting Wildcats -- Marie vs. Jen

https://www.clips4sale.com/studio/33405/fighting-wildcats-hd-videos/Cat0-AllCategories/Page2/ClipSize-asc/Limit10/search/FEMALE+WRESTLING

It'd have been very unlikely.  It's not speculation, but a fact, that the video, from which the clip is from, was made with a camcorder transferred to a VHS tape. While camcorders are hardly in use anymore, VHS is only used by those, whose legal obligation requires that their footage cannot be altered, like casinos and banks. Small time producers, but even bigger ones in the porn industry have long switched to digital as scenes can be recorded again without losing the film or degradation. Whoever produced this, it was done decades ago and I don't think Fighting Wildcats was around back then (also they use digital). There's a snowball's chance in Hell it is a contemporary movie which for some reason was "retrofitted" for VHS, but that alone would cost more than just simply shooting it with today's technology.

Thanks for the post. I'm afraid you are right. It looks like coming  from an old VHS tape. I also tried searching in Rockin-Roxanne site, but no luck either.  :( :( :(

I do love a good mystery and that's my focus here, the reward being the solution. I did not mention tattoos, for two obvious reasons: one, the single two databases I know that lists such people are both law enforcement ones, obviously not open to the public. Plus, speaking of the last century, the ink then had more liberal oversight on heavy metal content, so it could have been removed (but that's assuming she cared for it). What was widely known that following the HIV/AIDS scare, parlors were eyed for any Hep B infection risk. That being said, it doesn't bring us closer. It would if the tattoos were pre-internet custom made ones, but, again, a grainy low-level clip isn't definitive to determine that.

Neither was the place itself a big help. The fact they curtained it up does let us conclude it's either residential or in a dual purpose zone. It also couldn't be a high traffic area as camcorders back then, especially ones with external microphones couldn't really cancel out loud noises. Thus it was either a quiet neighborhood, or they didn't want the night watch to ogle in. My grief is however that all this only makes a testament to how things were then. I offered the 1985-1995 timeframe as a start. The company who made it could have been small then, and went out of business, or the opposite, it grew big and later videos were on a soundstage. The latter, of course, would require permits which have been filed, thus making it public record, but, again, it's useless without knowing the country and/or state. Others who did collect videos in discreet packaging and shipping could attest that back then, London and Hamburg were large retailing centers for such businesses. Thus, my guess was it's American made. Okay, now I slapped myself on the head figuratively. If any of us had seen an electrical outlet, that'd a great deal as those are vastly different in the UK, continental Europe, and America. What I did recognize instead is that we can discard Florida unless it's a state despite being subtropical, would have a need for a radiator.

My educated guess is that the radiator is longer than one used in a living room/bedroom, in which case it would make sense if it's a classroom, or it was one. A season can't be determined, only that the windows aren't open, but there can be cold summer days. If I'd be on the hunt, I'd ask the producers here if they know the clip. It just as well can be that a nonprofessional group made this video or a string of videos. It cannot be determined if it was made for profit, it could be whoever put it up online first started to copy it and sell it, and it was meant to be a home video (that however would explain the unwillingness to come forward, if it truly was filmed by way of misuse of public/private property or through BNE, no wonder, despite way past statute of limitations, it still would look bad).
Title: Re: Help me with this, please!
Post by: colt 45 on July 18, 2018, 02:52:11 AM
sorry I can't help you, surprised someone on hear doesn't know.  Try asking Gotjack or JT Edson.
Title: Re: Help me with this, please!
Post by: lover.catfight on July 18, 2018, 03:42:14 PM
Try Fighting Wildcats -- Marie vs. Jen

https://www.clips4sale.com/studio/33405/fighting-wildcats-hd-videos/Cat0-AllCategories/Page2/ClipSize-asc/Limit10/search/FEMALE+WRESTLING

It'd have been very unlikely.  It's not speculation, but a fact, that the video, from which the clip is from, was made with a camcorder transferred to a VHS tape. While camcorders are hardly in use anymore, VHS is only used by those, whose legal obligation requires that their footage cannot be altered, like casinos and banks. Small time producers, but even bigger ones in the porn industry have long switched to digital as scenes can be recorded again without losing the film or degradation. Whoever produced this, it was done decades ago and I don't think Fighting Wildcats was around back then (also they use digital). There's a snowball's chance in Hell it is a contemporary movie which for some reason was "retrofitted" for VHS, but that alone would cost more than just simply shooting it with today's technology.

Thanks for the post. I'm afraid you are right. It looks like coming  from an old VHS tape. I also tried searching in Rockin-Roxanne site, but no luck either.  :( :( :(

I do love a good mystery and that's my focus here, the reward being the solution. I did not mention tattoos, for two obvious reasons: one, the single two databases I know that lists such people are both law enforcement ones, obviously not open to the public. Plus, speaking of the last century, the ink then had more liberal oversight on heavy metal content, so it could have been removed (but that's assuming she cared for it). What was widely known that following the HIV/AIDS scare, parlors were eyed for any Hep B infection risk. That being said, it doesn't bring us closer. It would if the tattoos were pre-internet custom made ones, but, again, a grainy low-level clip isn't definitive to determine that.

Neither was the place itself a big help. The fact they curtained it up does let us conclude it's either residential or in a dual purpose zone. It also couldn't be a high traffic area as camcorders back then, especially ones with external microphones couldn't really cancel out loud noises. Thus it was either a quiet neighborhood, or they didn't want the night watch to ogle in. My grief is however that all this only makes a testament to how things were then. I offered the 1985-1995 timeframe as a start. The company who made it could have been small then, and went out of business, or the opposite, it grew big and later videos were on a soundstage. The latter, of course, would require permits which have been filed, thus making it public record, but, again, it's useless without knowing the country and/or state. Others who did collect videos in discreet packaging and shipping could attest that back then, London and Hamburg were large retailing centers for such businesses. Thus, my guess was it's American made. Okay, now I slapped myself on the head figuratively. If any of us had seen an electrical outlet, that'd a great deal as those are vastly different in the UK, continental Europe, and America. What I did recognize instead is that we can discard Florida unless it's a state despite being subtropical, would have a need for a radiator.

My educated guess is that the radiator is longer than one used in a living room/bedroom, in which case it would make sense if it's a classroom, or it was one. A season can't be determined, only that the windows aren't open, but there can be cold summer days. If I'd be on the hunt, I'd ask the producers here if they know the clip. It just as well can be that a nonprofessional group made this video or a string of videos. It cannot be determined if it was made for profit, it could be whoever put it up online first started to copy it and sell it, and it was meant to be a home video (that however would explain the unwillingness to come forward, if it truly was filmed by way of misuse of public/private property or through BNE, no wonder, despite way past statute of limitations, it still would look bad).

Thank you for  your deep analysis. I'm still afraid you are totally right: It looks bad, but  Hope is the last to die.  Thanks again for your posts. If you know  or guess anything else, please do not hesitate to post it here.

The search continues...
Title: Re: Help me with this, please!
Post by: lover.catfight on July 18, 2018, 03:43:48 PM
sorry I can't help you, surprised someone on hear doesn't know.  Try asking Gotjack or JT Edson.

Thank you. .I will contact them.
Title: Re: Help me with this, please!
Post by: catfightlover40 on July 18, 2018, 05:24:07 PM
As I didn't wish to make my reply look like a thread from an old listserv board, I reply separately instead. My hope is, that it was made for profit, and wasn't a home video. There's a decent movie with Luke Wilson from the last decade on how internet porn got off the ground (ironically financed by a guy who was later suspected of embezzling the funds needed to make that movie and another one) and of course, there have been some outsiders who tried to cash in on that by way of selling things that weren't originally meant to be sold (imagine if they had known if they do like Terry Hogan and sue the outlet publishing it, making him probably the only guy richer while committing adultery... that reminds me, Stormy Daniels got busted on some bogus charges).

Anyhow, I've seen the clip at least half a dozen times. If there's more to be deduced I'm happy to share, but I have to disclose, I have a strong code of ethics. It's the mystery that interests me, but only if it's not private. I too hope it's not a home video, I don't like being up in other's businesses. As most of us don't have eternal memory, my second suggestion would be, that if those who have submitted this clip before, could remember at least where they posted it, the Wayback Machine could be used to reread those posts again. There have been cases in the past, especially with those of missing persons where independent factoids led to new findings. Without a further rewatch, some things are relatively common knowledge. Most companies are small and draw on a pool of local talent, which means shooting locations are within a state. If it's residential zoning, it must have been or was highly likely a mostly Caucasian suburb. The benefit of America is that there's a massive population number division between cities and suburbs, with the latter usually having an under 100 thousand township and 2 or 3 high schools.

But this latter would be based on the recording being done in a school. It was night, it could have been abandoned. The biggest obstacle is that neither woman's faces are visible, that may be the only thing which was done on puirpose.