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Title: Weakest celebrities under 30?
Post by: jads719 on November 16, 2018, 04:55:57 AM
It's been a while since we've done this, so I want to see how opinions here have changed.  Which celebrities, under 30 years old, do you consider to be jobbers, and who among those jobbers do you think are the weakest?
Title: Re: Weakest celebrities under 30?
Post by: Sandman13 on November 16, 2018, 07:48:21 PM
I'd put Victoria Justice and Ariana Grande up there pretty close to the top. JMO.
Title: Re: Weakest celebrities under 30?
Post by: Maizenblue on November 16, 2018, 09:53:33 PM
Now this is my kind of thread. I would go with people like Kendall Jenner, Olivia Holt, Selena Gomez, Victoria Justice and so many more.

Excited to see who else gets mentioned.
Title: Re: Weakest celebrities under 30?
Post by: Ginny38 on November 17, 2018, 12:05:45 AM
Now this is my kind of thread. I would go with people like Kendall Jenner, Olivia Holt, Selena Gomez, Victoria Justice and so many more.

Excited to see who else gets mentioned.

THIS is why these polls are SOOOOOOOoooooooo much fun! I think Kendall Jenner (a tall, lean, whippy, kinda body, is someone who could COULD do really well in a fight ...the others, not so much! (They're too small and light to be effective) Others whose body "type" MAY lend itself to fighting are (in no particular order) Taylor Swift, Karlie Kloss, (any randomly chosen Victoria's Secret model).

If you want to look at people by job description, think singers... they have great lungs and should have stamina.... but nobody is singing while carrying around a 50# + weight in each hand (though some carry that much - or more - on their hips, ass, etc.)

You could throw a dart at a wall covered with pictures of "talking heads" and you'd be hard-pressed to hit one who does NOT belong on the short list (regardless of party affiliation!!!) 

I pretty much disregard height when it comes to "guesstimating" weakness, there's a lot of tiny gymnasts who'd put decathalon athletes to shame in the "strength per pound of body weight" category, but anyone who's 5'1" and 100 lbs and doesn't do something with weights isn't going to work her way onto our list.

I would be willing to bet (cyberbet only, no actual cash will be harmed by changing hands) that there are a lot more celebrities OVER 30 than there are UNDER 30 - simply because you often don't appreciate the benefits of hard work until you hit the big 3-0.... or 4-0.

{Sigh)  :P Well, it's time for me to get back to my workout (12oz curls baby!)

Title: Re: Weakest celebrities under 30?
Post by: jads719 on November 18, 2018, 12:20:40 AM
If you want to look at people by job description, think singers... they have great lungs and should have stamina.... but nobody is singing while carrying around a 50# + weight in each hand (though some carry that much - or more - on their hips, ass, etc.)

I would be willing to bet (cyberbet only, no actual cash will be harmed by changing hands) that there are a lot more celebrities OVER 30 than there are UNDER 30 - simply because you often don't appreciate the benefits of hard work until you hit the big 3-0.... or 4-0.

Interesting post about occupations here, Ginny.  Do you have specific examples in mind?  And I'm aware that there are many more celebs over 30 but I wanted the discussion to focus on fresh faces.

As for the names already mentioned in this thread, Selena Gomez, Ariana Grande, and Victoria Justice have already been widely known for a very long time on here.
Title: Re: Weakest celebrities under 30?
Post by: Ginny38 on November 18, 2018, 01:30:12 AM

Interesting post about occupations here, Ginny.  Do you have specific examples in mind? 
And I'm aware that there are many more celebs over 30 but I wanted the discussion to focus on fresh faces.

As for the names already mentioned in this thread, Selena Gomez, Ariana Grande, and Victoria Justice have already been widely known for a very long time on here.

I didn't have any SPECIFIC names in mind, but (for example) Katy Perry gets a lot of positive press here on FCF (mainly for her bosom) but I doubt she is particularly strong, and wouldn't fare well in a fight against anyone with a little bit of muscular development. One thing I think (we all) underestimate is the "body consciousness" of those in show business and how they go to extremes to avoid adding weight.

For example, you rarely see an actress with biceps (even those in the action genre). That's because it's not considered "attractive" so they don't work on developing their musculature. Women with jobs that don't depend on "looks" often work out in the gym and develop muscles that would (in a fight) prove helpful. I'm NOT putting down singers, or actresses, merely making the point that they suffer from what is considered "right" for their chosen line of work.

Which was why I picked on "singers" as being unsuited for FCF style fights. They spend all their time developing their vocal cords, not their biceps or quadraceps, deltoids, or other muscle groups. Other than athletes, I'm hard-pressed to name an occupation in the arts (perhaps models aside?) that would NOT make a "weakest" list simply because they're unsuited for anything other than that which makes them worth several million dollars a year.

(More power to them!!! BTW)
Title: Re: Weakest celebrities under 30?
Post by: Xtra164 on November 18, 2018, 02:51:48 AM
As is probably obvious looking back through my post history, my go-to loser will always be Lily Collins! She's the perfect ragdoll even for other normally helpless jobbers :D Ariana, Victoria, Selena and Natalia Dyer would be the my personal choices for all the weaklings just above Lily but they're all extremely pathetic in their own special ways haha

Kendall Jenner was mentioned already too but she's a great choice as well because she has that lanky and limber model figure that many girls would have a ball twisting and bending into any position they pleased and being a Kardashian you have to assume she's never had to actually fight for anything in her life ;D
Title: Re: Weakest celebrities under 30?
Post by: wheelman on November 18, 2018, 12:36:45 PM
I'm with Xtra especially on Kendall Jenner (and most models for that matter) I just dont see anything imposing about a pampered prissy beanpole who at almost 6ft tall barely weighs 115lbs soaking wet. While she might have the advantage on the Grande's and Lily Collins of the world. If she ran up on a shorter yet more athlectic girl with some toughness and we would have stringbean casserole just in time Thanksgiving!  ;D
Title: Re: Weakest celebrities under 30?
Post by: de Trixah on November 18, 2018, 01:43:55 PM
I'm with Xtra especially on Kendall Jenner (and most models for that matter) I just dont see anything imposing about a pampered prissy beanpole who at almost 6ft tall barely weighs 115lbs soaking wet. While she might have the advantage on the Grande's and Lily Collins of the world. If she ran up on a shorter yet more athlectic girl with some toughness and we would have stringbean casserole just in time Thanksgiving!  ;D

I agree and still see Taylor Swift high on the beanpoles jobber list.

For storter jobbergirls, besides the ones mentioned already, I would put Sarah Hyland high in the weakling/jobber rankings.
Title: Re: Weakest celebrities under 30?
Post by: jads719 on November 18, 2018, 06:45:22 PM
While there are a lot of singers and actresses who are definitely on the weaker side, I don't think that the industry is that selective for specific body types.  For example, neither Ellie Goulding nor Adele are considered jobbers despite being considered two of the most successful singers in the world.  The Hollywood social scene plays a much bigger role in my opinion.

As for some of the names mentioned, I agree with Xtra that Kendall Jenner probably can't fight well at all considering her socialite background and that her modeling and behavior have been criticized even as recently as this year, and that her height advantage is only useful against shorter girls who happen to be just as weak as she is.  As for Taylor Swift, I agree that she was a beanpole, but now she looks a lot more healthy than she was.  Of course, the forum still votes her to be a jobber because who wouldn't like to see her and those legs getting destroyed?

Recapping some of the names mentioned, we have:
Victoria Justice
Ariana Grande
Kendall Jenner
Olivia Holt
Selena Gomez
Lily Collins
Natalia Dyer
Taylor Swift
Sarah Hyland

Maybe if we could round this out to 16 names there could be a mini tournament to determine who the forum considers to the weakest of the celebrity jobbers ;)
Title: Re: Weakest celebrities under 30?
Post by: Maizenblue on November 18, 2018, 09:30:14 PM
Could definitely see a tournament being done with this group. Hopefully a story will follow.

A few years ago CanadianLou wrote a great tournament with the losers advancing starring older jobbers like Rachel Bilson, Leighton Meester and others.
Title: Re: Weakest celebrities under 30?
Post by: jads719 on November 19, 2018, 10:44:36 PM
Could definitely see a tournament being done with this group. Hopefully a story will follow.

A few years ago CanadianLou wrote a great tournament with the losers advancing starring older jobbers like Rachel Bilson, Leighton Meester and others.

That tournament by CanadianLou from nearly 10 years ago was impressive.  If there is enough interest there could be another one with this new group with stories for the semi-finals and finals, but as of now we don't even have enough interest to fill it out with 16 celebs.
Title: Re: Weakest celebrities under 30?
Post by: Ginny38 on November 20, 2018, 12:38:43 AM
Adele (turned 30 y/o in May.... no longer "under 30") Sorry!
Rita Ora (27)
Azealia Banks (27)
Vanessa Hudgens (29) 5'1"
Zendaya Coleman (22) 5'10" 130 (same as Taylor Swift)
Debby Ryan (25)
Camila Cabello (21) 5'2"
Title: Re: Weakest celebrities under 30?
Post by: Maizenblue on November 20, 2018, 02:10:29 AM
Could definitely see a tournament being done with this group. Hopefully a story will follow.

A few years ago CanadianLou wrote a great tournament with the losers advancing starring older jobbers like Rachel Bilson, Leighton Meester and others.

That tournament by CanadianLou from nearly 10 years ago was impressive.  If there is enough interest there could be another one with this new group with stories for the semi-finals and finals, but as of now we don't even have enough interest to fill it out with 16 celebs.

If we need more celebrities we can definitely think of them.
Title: Re: Weakest celebrities under 30?
Post by: Maizenblue on November 20, 2018, 02:13:06 AM
Adele (turned 30 y/o in May.... no longer "under 30") Sorry!
Rita Ora (27)
Azealia Banks (27)
Vanessa Hudgens (29) 5'1"
Zendaya Coleman (22) 5'10" 130 (same as Taylor Swift)
Debby Ryan (25)
Camila Cabello (21) 5'2"

Like your list, but have to disagree with Azealia Banks and Rita Ora. They would dominate this field without breaking a sweat.

Which I would very much enjoy watching.
Title: Re: Weakest celebrities under 30?
Post by: LoveSexyJobbers on November 20, 2018, 07:35:10 AM
I've said it a million times and will say it Zillions more - ARIANA GRANDE - she will get squashed and pinned by a blow up doll
Title: Re: Weakest celebrities under 30?
Post by: wheelman on November 20, 2018, 11:04:30 AM
Adele (turned 30 y/o in May.... no longer "under 30") Sorry!
Rita Ora (27)
Azealia Banks (27)
Vanessa Hudgens (29) 5'1"
Zendaya Coleman (22) 5'10" 130 (same as Taylor Swift)
Debby Ryan (25)
Camila Cabello (21) 5'2"

Like your list, but have to disagree with Azealia Banks and Rita Ora. They would dominate this field without breaking a sweat.

Which I would very much enjoy watching.
Not sure I agree with Zendaya or Vanessa. Although maybe not "hellcats" by any stretch. They are both dancers and seem pretty athletic.
Title: Re: Weakest celebrities under 30?
Post by: pro wrestling roleplayer on November 20, 2018, 02:39:17 PM
Adele (turned 30 y/o in May.... no longer "under 30") Sorry!
Rita Ora (27)
Azealia Banks (27)
Vanessa Hudgens (29) 5'1"
Zendaya Coleman (22) 5'10" 130 (same as Taylor Swift)
Debby Ryan (25)
Camila Cabello (21) 5'2"

Like your list, but have to disagree with Azealia Banks and Rita Ora. They would dominate this field without breaking a sweat.

Which I would very much enjoy watching.
Not sure I agree with Zendaya or Vanessa. Although maybe not "hellcats" by any stretch. They are both dancers and seem pretty athletic.

Emily Browning, Australian actress, watched a movie last night, just begging to make pained faces while getting punched in the stomach
Title: Re: Weakest celebrities under 30?
Post by: Ginny38 on November 20, 2018, 03:08:04 PM
Adele (turned 30 y/o in May.... no longer "under 30") Sorry!
Rita Ora (27)
Azealia Banks (27)
  EMPHASIS ADDED
Vanessa Hudgens (29) 5'1"
Zendaya Coleman (22) 5'10" 130 (same as Taylor Swift)
Debby Ryan (25)
Camila Cabello (21) 5'2"

Like your list, but have to disagree with Azealia Banks and Rita Ora. They would dominate this field without breaking a sweat.  Which I would very much enjoy watching.

I won't argue (since I don't know enough about Banks/Ora to say either way). I included them on HEIGHT (alone) but IF you're thinking of a "weakest" tournament....then you have to expect SOMEONE will win - perhaps by dominating.

Re: singer Zendaya Coleman (Maizenblue's comment) I "defend" my choice to include her on the grounds I'm not very familiar with her (yet) but she IS a "Taylor Swift" body type - as is Kendall Jenner, a model. If "almost anyone tall and skinny" can be tossed into the "weak" pool and forced to swim with the minnows, then I would argue to treat Zendaya, Jenner and Swift all equally (or "with equal disdain"?)  ::)

Besides, these discussions are all done for fun since there is (sadly) at least so far, but the computer people ARE making great strides in VIRTUAL REALITY so perhaps the day isn't too far away when we can input a slate of "weak celebrities" and watch them battle in an Over The Top Rope Battle Royale for reality, if not for real!!! (fingers crossed)
Title: Re: Weakest celebrities under 30?
Post by: Maizenblue on November 20, 2018, 07:24:16 PM
Adele (turned 30 y/o in May.... no longer "under 30") Sorry!
Rita Ora (27)
Azealia Banks (27)
  EMPHASIS ADDED
Vanessa Hudgens (29) 5'1"
Zendaya Coleman (22) 5'10" 130 (same as Taylor Swift)
Debby Ryan (25)
Camila Cabello (21) 5'2"

Like your list, but have to disagree with Azealia Banks and Rita Ora. They would dominate this field without breaking a sweat.  Which I would very much enjoy watching.

I won't argue (since I don't know enough about Banks/Ora to say either way). I included them on HEIGHT (alone) but IF you're thinking of a "weakest" tournament....then you have to expect SOMEONE will win - perhaps by dominating.

Re: singer Zendaya Coleman (Maizenblue's comment) I "defend" my choice to include her on the grounds I'm not very familiar with her (yet) but she IS a "Taylor Swift" body type - as is Kendall Jenner, a model. If "almost anyone tall and skinny" can be tossed into the "weak" pool and forced to swim with the minnows, then I would argue to treat Zendaya, Jenner and Swift all equally (or "with equal disdain"?)  ::)

Besides, these discussions are all done for fun since there is (sadly) at least so far, but the computer people ARE making great strides in VIRTUAL REALITY so perhaps the day isn't too far away when we can input a slate of "weak celebrities" and watch them battle in an Over The Top Rope Battle Royale for reality, if not for real!!! (fingers crossed)

Someone else mentioned Zendaya as not a jobber. I agree with you that she is weak. Maybe not Ariana Grande weak but more on the jobber side.

If not too late need to throw in
Nina Dobrev
Emma Roberts
AnnaSophia Robb
Daisy Ridley
Dove Cameron


Title: Re: Weakest celebrities under 30?
Post by: jads719 on November 21, 2018, 04:05:00 AM
Thanks for all of the names.  We now have more than enough (25 to be exact including the four I suggested below), but since we're going to need a poll to resolve some disagreements and narrow down the list, I'm going to give you all a last chance to suggest jobbers you may have forgotten before I open the poll soon.

Recapping who we have so far:
AnnaSophia Robb
Ariana Grande
Azealia Banks
Camila Cabello
Daisy Ridley
Debby Ryan
Dove Cameron
Emily Browning
Emma Roberts
Kendall Jenner
Lily Collins
Natalia Dyer
Nina Dobrev
Olivia Holt
Rita Ora
Sarah Hyland
Selena Gomez
Taylor Swift
Vanessa Hudgens
Victoria Justice
Zendaya Coleman

I personally have a few suggestions as well.
Cher Lloyd
Lucy Hale
Nicola Peltz
Sammi Hanratty
Title: Re: Weakest celebrities under 30?
Post by: dash91 on November 21, 2018, 06:14:35 AM
Chrissy Costanza, singer.
Title: Re: Weakest celebrities under 30?
Post by: Ginny38 on November 21, 2018, 09:41:41 PM
2018 Highest-Paid Women in Music
(and you could probably put 7 or 8 (*) in your "weakest" tournament!

1. Katy Perry ($83 million)*
2. Taylor Swift ($80 million)*
3. Beyoncé ($60 million)
4. Pink ($52 million)*
5. Lady Gaga ($50 million)*
6. Jennifer Lopez ($47 million)
7. Rihanna ($37.5 million)
8. Helene Fischer ($32 million) (?)
9. Celine Dion ($31 million)*
10. Britney Spears ($30 million)*
Title: Re: Weakest celebrities under 30?
Post by: jads719 on November 21, 2018, 11:50:49 PM
2018 Highest-Paid Women in Music
(and you could probably put 7 or 8 (*) in your "weakest" tournament!

1. Katy Perry ($83 million)*
2. Taylor Swift ($80 million)*
3. Beyoncé ($60 million)
4. Pink ($52 million)*
5. Lady Gaga ($50 million)*
6. Jennifer Lopez ($47 million)
7. Rihanna ($37.5 million)
8. Helene Fischer ($32 million) (?)
9. Celine Dion ($31 million)*
10. Britney Spears ($30 million)*


Out of this list, only Taylor Swift is under 30.
Title: Re: Weakest celebrities under 30?
Post by: Maizenblue on November 22, 2018, 03:01:00 AM
2018 Highest-Paid Women in Music
(and you could probably put 7 or 8 (*) in your "weakest" tournament!

1. Katy Perry ($83 million)*
2. Taylor Swift ($80 million)*
3. Beyoncé ($60 million)
4. Pink ($52 million)*
5. Lady Gaga ($50 million)*
6. Jennifer Lopez ($47 million)
7. Rihanna ($37.5 million)
8. Helene Fischer ($32 million) (?)
9. Celine Dion ($31 million)*
10. Britney Spears ($30 million)*


I completely disagree. Just the personality they display Pink and Lady Gaga are tough.

I also disagree with Britney. When she was younger she was a cupcake, but after her breakdown she has that crazy person strength. I would not want to meet her if she is off her meds.
Title: Re: Weakest celebrities under 30?
Post by: Ginny38 on November 22, 2018, 02:15:11 PM
Out of this list, only Taylor Swift is under 30.

Thanks for the reminder.... in my eagerness to post the list, I totally forgot the age limitation. (my bad)
Title: Re: Weakest celebrities under 30?
Post by: jads719 on November 23, 2018, 12:03:49 AM
The poll hasn't gotten as much of a response as I hoped for, but up to this point it's clear that the forum voters don't consider singers like Azealia Banks and Rita Ora weak.  They have the least votes out of everyone so far.
Title: Re: Weakest celebrities under 30?
Post by: Jobberfan on November 23, 2018, 12:45:50 AM
2018 Highest-Paid Women in Music
(and you could probably put 7 or 8 (*) in your "weakest" tournament!

1. Katy Perry ($83 million)*
2. Taylor Swift ($80 million)*
3. Beyoncé ($60 million)
4. Pink ($52 million)*
5. Lady Gaga ($50 million)*
6. Jennifer Lopez ($47 million)
7. Rihanna ($37.5 million)
8. Helene Fischer ($32 million) (?)
9. Celine Dion ($31 million)*
10. Britney Spears ($30 million)*


I completely disagree. Just the personality they display Pink and Lady Gaga are tough.

I also disagree with Britney. When she was younger she was a cupcake, but after her breakdown she has that crazy person strength. I would not want to meet her if she is off her meds.
I know that Britney is over 30 But I've always seen her as a jobber 8)
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Title: Re: Weakest celebrities under 30?
Post by: Sandman13 on November 23, 2018, 11:29:57 PM
I know this is straying from the thread and I apologize for that. But Britney Spears is making *only* 30 million a year. While it's true some small Central American countries could survive on that per year, would she be angry enough to pick a fight with someone making much more, like Taylor Swift, Katie Perry or even Celine Dion? It'd make a pretty good plot for the celebrity fights section.
Title: Re: Weakest celebrities under 30?
Post by: wheelman on November 24, 2018, 12:28:00 PM
Age requirements aside. There are many words I would use to describe the likes of JLo, Pink and Beyonce, but "weak" would not be one of them.  ;)

2018 Highest-Paid Women in Music
(and you could probably put 7 or 8 (*) in your "weakest" tournament!


1. Katy Perry ($83 million)*
2. Taylor Swift ($80 million)*
3. Beyoncé ($60 million)
4. Pink ($52 million)*
5. Lady Gaga ($50 million)*
6. Jennifer Lopez ($47 million)
7. Rihanna ($37.5 million)
8. Helene Fischer ($32 million) (?)
9. Celine Dion ($31 million)*
10. Britney Spears ($30 million)*

Title: Re: Weakest celebrities under 30?
Post by: jads719 on December 09, 2018, 02:34:42 AM
The response was underwhelming, but we've finished the mini-tournament and it looks like Ariana Grande is the forum's choice for the weakest celebrity under 30.  Do you agree with the forum, and if not, who should Ariana Grande challenge to try to give the title to?

Here are the polls:
Pre-tournament:  https://www.freecatfights.com/forums/index.php?topic=76352.0
Round 1, Part 1:  https://www.freecatfights.com/forums/index.php?topic=76439.0
Round 1, Part 2:  https://www.freecatfights.com/forums/index.php?topic=76474.0
Round 2:  https://www.freecatfights.com/forums/index.php?topic=76504.0
Semifinals:  https://www.freecatfights.com/forums/index.php?topic=76563.0
Final:  https://www.freecatfights.com/forums/index.php?topic=76627.0