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Catfight Collectors. Wish we Had more of a voice.

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Offline Datetha

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Catfight Collectors. Wish we Had more of a voice.
« on: April 23, 2024, 08:18:01 AM »
  Although some producers sell directly from custom made sites, one of the most reliable sources to purchase to my knowledge has become clips for sale.  Prior to clips for sale, it was standard to use a forum like this, see what producers are out there, then go and purchase from their sites.  Its how I would have been exposed to Cal Wild, Napali, CatfightHaven, DWW  and different sites like that.  Eventually these sites started becoming outdated or defunct and clips for sale started becoming a main source to purchase.  We had our own category but then it got lumped into a generalized "female fighting" category and thats where one of my first thoughts about not having a voice as consumers kick in.  We are our own fetish, catfighting/sexfighting is its own category.  Going through clips for sale, the female fighting category is filled with all types of vidoes that are not catfights.  I often think to myself, who are they producing these fights for? Are they making money?  Catfight fetish seems niche, but surely some of these non catfights are even less popular?

  Not sure if anyone here games, but wish clipsforsale could operate more like steam, where we can leave reviews and ratings on videos, or even warn off potential buyers of shady sellers.   It would be nice as consumers if we had some power, a voice basically. Thats one reason why I like steam so much for games.  You can get a feel for what you are buying, and if you're satisfied you can leave praises.  I also feel under the current regime of producers can be really vague with previews. 75% on purpose, 25% of the time due to lack of time or technical know how.  I made those numbers up but thats what it feels like.   I end up with Dud videos often, because I liked the way the girls look, but then the video ends up being crappy.  Wish I could warn my fellow fans like " hey this video is misleading and has 5 second of breast grab". Stuff like that.

 My next issue I wish we had more say on was cost of videos, especially with the rising cost of everything going on.  I feel like as fans an consumers we have no say in whats charged, which is crazy because we're the ones paying, or in a lot of cases not paying, due to cost.  Currently as of 2024 its seems to be standard for producers charge 1$ per minute of video, regardless of how much fight it has.  Props to Suitefight who seems to charge for time fought, and discounts fights that are duds.  Most producers don't do that though.   
  Now I understand it being a fetish and porn, it doesn't pull in the same money other stuff might, but the production cost and models are much cheaper than making an actual movie or tv show, not only that a video can sell for decades.  So I get it we are charged a 1$ per minute for new videos and lately some are charging even more than that.  Not even going to get into the insane prices GirlFight-Club charges, like no I'm not paying 100$ to watch 2 fat ugly pregnant girls fight. Insane.  Ok so I briefly dipped, but things need to be said.
  SO we are charged top dollar for new vids, but why are these older companies with videos 10-30 years old also trying to charge those prices?  Like do they not want to make money? Do they purposely make fans pick and choose instead of just being able to buy a whole collection at an affordable price?  Sometimes I feel like the producers are the catfight fetishes own worst enemy, because they make purchasing videos and clips unaffordable. 
 
  So I doubt I'll stop being a collector and buyer of fights, but I really just needed to rant because at times I just feel milked as a consumer and I feel the greed of some producers keeps what we all love in obscurity.  And if we had more ways to say what we like and don't like then we could overall get better content and a larger community and fans of catfighting.   Sorry for the long post, been gone awhile so had words to get out.

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Re: Catfight Collectors. Wish we Had more of a voice.
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2024, 06:09:48 PM »
For me, Clips4Sale went a little downhill when the catfighting genre was removed, and now all videos are under "female fighting". It's too much of a mix and makes it difficult to find the stuff I personally like, but yeah I haven't purchased anything on there in little over a year just because the content doesn't seem that great, and quite a few of my purchases have left me disappointed to. I actually have quite a big wishlist but won't buy any of the videos because they lack any sort of real preview, and of course there's no reviews so it really is a gamble.

Reviews would absolutely make a world of difference, also just having better preview videos in general, but I get that they don't want to give away the best parts for free, they need to make money after all. It's a difficult balance for sure.
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Re: Catfight Collectors. Wish we Had more of a voice.
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2024, 08:21:24 PM »
For me, Clips4Sale went a little downhill when the catfighting genre was removed, and now all videos are under "female fighting". It's too much of a mix and makes it difficult to find the stuff I personally like, but yeah I haven't purchased anything on there in little over a year just because the content doesn't seem that great, and quite a few of my purchases have left me disappointed to. I actually have quite a big wishlist but won't buy any of the videos because they lack any sort of real preview, and of course there's no reviews so it really is a gamble.

Reviews would absolutely make a world of difference, also just having better preview videos in general, but I get that they don't want to give away the best parts for free, they need to make money after all. It's a difficult balance for sure.

Thing with C4S previews you gotta remember is, the site pulls a segment at random for it. The producer doesn't control what is posted. So when you see say a Catz Review video that only shows a pre-fight interview clip, this is the reason why.

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Re: Catfight Collectors. Wish we Had more of a voice.
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2024, 10:23:20 PM »
For me, Clips4Sale went a little downhill when the catfighting genre was removed, and now all videos are under "female fighting". It's too much of a mix and makes it difficult to find the stuff I personally like, but yeah I haven't purchased anything on there in little over a year just because the content doesn't seem that great, and quite a few of my purchases have left me disappointed to. I actually have quite a big wishlist but won't buy any of the videos because they lack any sort of real preview, and of course there's no reviews so it really is a gamble.

Reviews would absolutely make a world of difference, also just having better preview videos in general, but I get that they don't want to give away the best parts for free, they need to make money after all. It's a difficult balance for sure.

Thing with C4S previews you gotta remember is, the site pulls a segment at random for it. The producer doesn't control what is posted. So when you see say a Catz Review video that only shows a pre-fight interview clip, this is the reason why.

Are you sure? I've seen preview clips on there that are basically trailers, with a bunch of different clips from the video (sometimes with added music and text)
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Re: Catfight Collectors. Wish we Had more of a voice.
« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2024, 02:02:34 PM »
with C4S previews you gotta remember is, the site pulls a segment at random for it. The producer doesn't control what is posted. So when you see say a Catz Review video that only shows a pre-fight interview clip, this is the reason why.

No, you can chose to post your own preview

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Re: Catfight Collectors. Wish we Had more of a voice.
« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2024, 10:34:01 PM »
with C4S previews you gotta remember is, the site pulls a segment at random for it. The producer doesn't control what is posted. So when you see say a Catz Review video that only shows a pre-fight interview clip, this is the reason why.

No, you can chose to post your own preview

this determines whether i buy a specific video or not on C4S. Usually when all you have is a set up, or the first few seconds of the video (which is usually 50% credits) i'm not going to buy your video. It takes a few minutes to pull together the best parts of your video into a spicy trailer. I find it very ;lazy when producers don't put in the effort to make a worthy trailer for their C4S videos.
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Re: Catfight Collectors. Wish we Had more of a voice.
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2024, 01:06:13 PM »


I see some producers , especially Rain's two sites,   have nice, long previews while others are so short they're basically useless so I'm thinking the producer has to have some say on what goes into a preview and fair or not, that means a lot to someone thinking about buying.

I have no idea on how it all happens but one thing is I don't think enough thought is going into the expense the producers are dealing with by the buyers of this stuff ... like every other business the producer has to make money on this or they're out of business . No business these days is easy to manage so something like with so much competition seems to me would be next to impossible to keep going. 

Then there are some like Fighting Dolls  who seem to have a limitless amount of regular and new girls , incredible venues to film and top of the line equipment to film it without having to use C4S , always give a very good previews besides giving their followers new matches everyday of the year. 

No doubt that FD and TD are descendants from the old DWW and Trib Girls gives them a tremendous advantage over smaller places and especially new ones trying to break into the field.

Either way, providing nuts like us this sort of material isn't easy .