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General Category => Celebrity Fights => Celebrity Fights - General => Topic started by: HumiliationOne on December 11, 2016, 08:29:02 PM
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Now that UFC is in the books and we are under 20 days away we can start talking about the Rousey vs Nunes matchup. I am astounded that Vegas still has Ronda favored as I see a total and brutal 1st round loss coming for the former champ. Anyone think that Ronda has a shot of winning or at least not getting her sexy ass humiliated?
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Ronda is hungry again. I'll take her, but no not betting the house on it.
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I think there is a possibility that she is hungry but I am not 100 percent sold on that either. She could just be doing this for the money and because she feels an obligation. Either way I just do not see her arm-baring Nunes and I see no other way for her to win. Oddsmakers must se something I do not though. More than anything else it comes down to Ronda saying that she was out on her feet after Holly caught her. Nunes hits WAY harder than Holly. I see Nunes coming out and keeping distance and lighting Ronda's face up with that sick jab and her legs up with those snapping leg kicks. Ronda gets desperate and gets caught with overhand right. Either she gets knocked out, Amanda pounces on her and TKO with ground and pound or a RNC if Ronda gives up her back.
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I see Ronda getting outclassed, humiliated and pouting about becoming suicidal again. Then,
she'll retire, make a few more movies, and drift into the obscurity she so richly deserves.
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Nunes is going to finish her in the first minute. Holm is a patty cack puncher and knocked Rousey all over the cage. Nunes is a KO specialist and has footwork to go with it. Ronda has the worst striking coach in the sport. This is a cakewalk for the champ.
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I am going to go with Rousey in a close fight . Nunes is picking her bouts carefully she doesn't want to fight Cat Zigano or Holly Holm
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Rousey winning is a better "story" - and will give the promoter more publicity moving forward. Nunes may be the better fighter, but Rousey will (likely) be better for UFC in the long run... attracting more investors, advertising dollars and fans.
Which has nothing to do with who will win, or "should win" just business.
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I am going to go with Rousey in a close fight . Nunes is picking her bouts carefully she doesn't want to fight Cat Zigano or Holly Holm
I understand Ms Holmes has retired
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I am going to go with Rousey in a close fight . Nunes is picking her bouts carefully she doesn't want to fight Cat Zigano or Holly Holm
I understand Ms Holmes has retired
No, you don't understand that.
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I understand Ms Holmes has retired
Not only do you not understand that, but she just was announced as fighting for a title on Feb 11.
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Can this please be a place on Internet where we can be kind to one another? Because someone was misinformed about Holly's retirement.
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thanks I WAS misinformed
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After seeing pic Ronda just posted of her back, I think she is physically ready.
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"odds makers favor Rousey" is the kind of headline designed to draw bettors interest... probably because the "smart money" guys figure everyone knows/has heard of/likes Ronda while Nunes is pretty much unknown to the 'man on the street' who doesn't really follow MMA and only knows Ronda Rousey from Sports Illustrated (nude body paint or other issue with Ronda's pic).
Plenty of ordinary folks will likely put their money on Ronda, but the "smart guys" will probably bet on Nunes.
In the end, the "odds makers" are only interested in making odds to encourage the MOST people to bet ON SOMEONE... so they can take their percentage no matter who wins the actual fight!
Personally, I don't think Rousey will do well....but I think the organizers would like nothing better than for Ronda to win which would let them gen up another several fights with big box office sales. Nunes, Holm, et. al., aren't going to sell nearly as many tickets as Rousey (on name recognition alone).
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I agree with much of what you say but if oddsmakers did not think she would win she would not be favored. Before I saw what sick shape she is in it was seriously doubting her chances. Now I put them near 50 50.
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I am not a serious student of MMA like many here are. I love reading the comments. It helps me see different angles to all of this.
This is a very difficult question for me. MMA is so complex and almost anything CAN happen.
I wonder (not a conspiracy theorist), but how much influence do the UFC brass have in this? If they have some, they would want Rousey to regain the title, (I think). To rematch Holly. To get Cyborg at some point before they both retire. I don't think Nunes has the draw power that Ronda has.
But, if there is no outside factors at play...I see it going to a decision. Then the fireworks start, no matter who gets the decision. I pray it is settled before a judges' decision.
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Then the fireworks start, no matter who gets the decision. I pray it is settled before a judges' decision.
And those of us who see "conspiracy" behind every bush, shrub, and tree would love nothing more than for the fight to end in a split decision. Promoters could then justify keeping both women active; each fighter could - justifiably? - argue she "wuz robbed" and fans could post, tweet and bluster "my girl shoulda got the decision"... with no one ever really being able to prove their opinion is correct.
Sadly, I fear the outcome will be disappointing to most... perhaps all... with either a quick catch by Rousey or a punch by Nunes ending it in the first minute or two (an outcome that often happens in big fights to the everlasting angst of sponsors and networks left with a bucket full of sold and unshown commercials they must burn off during an endless postfight analysis nobody is watching!)
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2 days away from the fight and the closer it gets the more I favor Ronda. She is looking jacked.
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This is a tough call. I look at Nunes 4 loses but that one Rousey loss was super devastating to her. Rousey is looking better physically but I am not sure where she is mentally at this point. Nunes seems very focused.
I think if Nunes can frustrate Rousey early and doesn't allow her to get into her arm bar submission she might win a decision. Rousey will have to win this in first round or I will give it to Nunes. The longer the fight goes, the better Nunes chances.
I love Rousey but would like to see her move to WWE and the film work she does. Actually liked her in Furious and Expendables.
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After seeing weigh ins my opinion has swung back the other way. Rousey looked dehydrated. scared and ran off stage again. She is getting beat. She also looked about three inches shorter once both girls were barefoot.
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If Ronda can rush Nunes without taking a big punch and get her on the ground before they start sweating, she can pull this off. If not, Nunes will obliterate her. Ronda got beaten to a pulp by Holm who wasn't even a KO puncher as a boxer. She got tagged solidly in both Tate fights, but Miescha's technique was so bad at the time that her punches carried little power. Nunes hits harder than either of them and has footwork that should be good enough to avoid the clinch and throw judo attack long enough to end Rousey's career.
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Ronda is going to kick her ass plain and simple
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After much back and forth my sadistic side has won...really hoping Nunes beats her in most humiliating way imaginable. Perhaps a crucifix hold and elbow strikes and she starts tapping out but Nunes gets one last one in and she does unconscious. She wakes up and does not know she lost and everyone laughs at her.
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Nice. That was what I expected.
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Lousy Ronda Rousey isn't so great when her opponent has good standup skills.
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nobody can stand toe to toe with nunes she will beat u up , just like she did tate and now rousey
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Rousey should have taken this fight to the ground ASAP instead of trying to keep pace with Nunes' striking.
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Rousey should have taken this fight to the ground ASAP instead of trying to keep pace with Nunes' striking.
Rousey doesn't have the skill to take a good puncher with good footwork down. She legitimately has the worst trainer in the sport and has no idea what to do now that she can't bully girls that are smaller than her (Rousey fought judo at 154 and started MMA at 145 before ducking Cyborg and moving down to 135).
Nunes has legit footwork and Rousey could barely get close enough to get her hands on Nunes. That fight will end the same way every single time until Ronda changes camps.
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Keep pace? Come on. She didn't even fight. Got hit once and panicked and froze up. She is a shell of her former self. No disrespect to Nunes but I don't know who in top 10 she can beat anymore. That Holm loss KO stole her soul. I do have guilt for the incredible turn on seeing her looking like a helpless punching bag gave me.
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She would still destroy everyone from 6 down (McMann, Zingano, etc) because they have zero standup game. In the top 5, she would beat Pennington and Pena pretty easily. Nunes and Holm are physically as big as/bigger than Ronda, have good to great footwork, and have enough punching power to stop her typical rush to the clinch.
Rousey was, and is, a one trick pony. Her trainer is widely regarded as the worst coach in MMA with standup being his weak spot.
Travis Browne, Ronda's current boyfriend, was 16-2-1 and a title contender when he moved to Ronda's coach. Since then he's 2-3 and the wins were against a guy who is now retired and a guy who is no longer in UFC.
If Rousey goes to a real camp, she's got a chance. If she sticks with the fraud coach, she needs to retire.
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Maybe we can send Rousey to the mma.xxx.com and she can fight there now.
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Keep pace? Come on. She didn't even fight. Got hit once and panicked and froze up. She is a shell of her former self. No disrespect to Nunes but I don't know who in top 10 she can beat anymore. That Holm loss KO stole her soul. I do have guilt for the incredible turn on seeing her looking like a helpless punching bag gave me.
It would have been even better if Ronda's hair was down and we saw her fly with each punch Nunes delivered to Ronda's face. That's a turn on. Cheers! Tony
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Keep pace? Come on. She didn't even fight. Got hit once and panicked and froze up. She is a shell of her former self. No disrespect to Nunes but I don't know who in top 10 she can beat anymore. That Holm loss KO stole her soul. I do have guilt for the incredible turn on seeing her looking like a helpless punching bag gave me.
It would have been even better if Ronda's hair was down and we saw her fly with each punch Nunes delivered to Ronda's face. That's a turn on. Cheers! Tony
....or no crowd, so we could hear the noises.
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BTW, if anyone is looking for an MMA fighter to use in polls/stories, Mackenzie Dern is the one you want.
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After 3 weeks Nunes can not stop talking shit on Ronda. "Saw fear in her eyes after 1st jab" Damn...
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2017/1/18/14310802/amanda-nunes-ronda-rousey-fear-ufc-207-mma-news
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Nunes would beat Rousey 100 times out of 100. Styles make fights and Rousey is way too old to learn the standup aspect of the sport well enough to handle people like Nunes and Holm that have been striking with elite coaches for years.
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I am a 100 percent with Dog on this one. Both of us said Ronda would get finished in 1st. Although I hedged at end when I saw Ronda's pretty show muscles. At this point there is nothing Ronda could do to improve to beat Nunes. She has no foot work or head movement and can not even take one of Nunes's jabs without going to queer street. Sad ending for a once great champion but that is not uncommon in combat sports. Brutal reality comes quick and it is certainly cruel.