[WildAtHeart]

I found some of Mila's fights on Porn Hub and loved them.  I posted them here but they got removed.  I tried to find an actual site that had more information about the company and I was sent this link

https://www.clips4sale.com/studio/101399/phat-pharrahs-katfight-korner/Cat0-AllCategories/Page1/SortBy-bestmatch/Limit10/search/mila%20rose%20vs%20Jasmine

I think the match is worth a purchase and does anyone know if they just do clips online or do they have an actual website where one can purchase a video.  I still like to own stuff old school if I buy it.  Please reply with any info about more fights from this company or Mila because I would like to check them out.

Here is a link to her Model Mayhem account but there are no videos listed of catfights.

http://www.modelmayhem.com/Milarose630


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[Driver47]

Directing people to a pornhub site doesn't really help the producer produce takes money from them hence the deletion at lest you posted the link to the c4s site which is good we try to support the producers here so that they can keep producing. There isn't an actual website just the c4s site which has all the fights. Mila is a catfight fav and true catfight fans will purchase for sure.

[vidfan2005]

Sad to see this board has been "transformed" into a producer-promoting site. Suddenly one mod decides to check into things and feels that the sponsors are losing a buck or two and decides to completely change the direction of the posts here? (This has been going on for a long time and we all liked it -- go back to the other "side" of things, cyberfighting and other imaginary events....) Posting a producer's material will lead the "customer" back to the owner -- and besides, has there been any *problem* with this manner of posting? Or is it just someone's preference, or feeling in a particularly shitty mood one day?

VF

[vidfan2005]

Another, more important issue -- a lot of the companies have gone out of business. So is anything posted on Pornhub going to be taken down now, or will the mod know that the company in question is DEAD and no longer can be "robbed" of a few bucks (Crystal, DWW, etc etc). Perhaps if each poster notes who made the vid and how it can be ordered? Otherwise, this is a complete reshuffling of how the board has functioned.

[WildAtHeart]

Vidfan2005,

  I do agree about some material from active companies can be protected and I hope sites like pornhub, etc take down videos that are protected.  If I owned a company like Fighting Dolls, I would have someone monitor the biggest sites, like pornhub, and have them remove material that is against policy. 

  My issue is that some big companies have put out some videos for free as promotional material to give fans an idea of what the company is all about.  Again, if I owned Fighting Dolls, I would post 2-3 videos on pornhub (maybe fights that are too short for purchase or some fights from a decade ago) to give people like me a chance to see what the company is about.  Catfighting video are very expensive at times and I have been burned numerous times.  I had one adult video store in my area that got some catfight material to rent and I ended up buying a few that really turned me on.  Same with material I found online.

  Also, if I owned Fighting Dolls, I would probably check out sites like this that I promote on to make sure that people were not posting material they shouldn't and I would ask the moderators to remove it or put a link to my website in place of the video link.

  With the Mila videos I posted, the big problem was on pornhub they didn't list the video company so I had no idea how old or new they actually were.  I searched by titles and found some pics (which all linked to tumbler which I don't have access to) or to the models Mayhem page but no links to the fights.  Without knowing who the company was, I had no way to know if this was an actual company or not that was still active.  There are still some fights I was trying to look up by title that I still could not find for sale (maybe they were privately done). 

  My best bet IMHO is to see if the company is still active and if the fight is listed for sale by them and then put that in the text if it isn't.   If it is for sale, maybe post some pics from online and tell people where to find it.  Or post a trailer for the video like Ultimate Surrender does.

  If the company is out of business, post away. 

OPINIONS?

[Nutmeg]

Sad to see this board has been "transformed" into a producer-promoting site. Suddenly one mod decides to check into things and feels that the sponsors are losing a buck or two and decides to completely change the direction of the posts here? (This has been going on for a long time and we all liked it -- go back to the other "side" of things, cyberfighting and other imaginary events....) Posting a producer's material will lead the "customer" back to the owner -- and besides, has there been any *problem* with this manner of posting? Or is it just someone's preference, or feeling in a particularly shitty mood one day?

VF

The content sharing rule has been a rule for years here. When the owner policed it himself people were banned permanently no questions asked first offence. So we are being pretty damn generous now just warning them at first.

And do you honestly think the producers sponsor the site? A site that barely breaks even financially? No one is paying Superbowl ad rates for the few ads we have running.

Irony: Asking if there has been any problem with these type of posts when one of the dead companies you mentioned (DWW) died because of piracy. It is like standing in front of the Holocaust Museum asking "When have the Jews really face discrimination ? I just don't see it  "

Also we have been regarded as a piracy site by other sites. Gee I wonder how that happened? WildAtHeart is the exception to the rule that pro piracy folks like to claim is the majority. The majority really won't go back to the producer and buy their stuff. They just do more searches on pornhub since they feel entitled to free shit.

Part of the reason the site exists is for the ACTIVE video portion of it to be kept alive by allowing a way fro producers to help sell their product. I sense it upsets you that the industry isn't filled with men and women who just want to these fights for free but it is what it is.

And no posting a link to a free copy of a fight along side where you can buy it isn't cool. The producer themselves can of course but it seems rather disingenuous for someone else to do so.

And we ask people who report such links to tell us which producer it is so we can determine is it is indeed still for sale. That being said the original copyright holder could still ask it be removed. And some of these dead companies from what I can tell, still have others selling their libraries

One suggestion was to remove this section entirely. I still like to think it has its place for fights from tv and movies, stuff caught in real life and fights from companies whose product may be more public domain.

Also your "robbed of a few bucks " makes it sound like you think catfight producers are like MGM or Sony. A massive corporation that can afford this and not a small business that gets hit in the nuts by piracy. 100 views is about a grand of lost revenue. I think that would HURT a lot of these producers.

If we get complaints we react to them. If someone is stupid and makes it real obvious they are posting pirated content they get slapped.

And a complete reshuffling of how the board has functioned? Do NOT post links to pirated content. is right in the board description. Rather clear it is.

[Driver47]

Sad to see this board has been "transformed" into a producer-promoting site. Suddenly one mod decides to check into things and feels that the sponsors are losing a buck or two and decides to completely change the direction of the posts here? (This has been going on for a long time and we all liked it -- go back to the other "side" of things, cyberfighting and other imaginary events....) Posting a producer's material will lead the "customer" back to the owner -- and besides, has there been any *problem* with this manner of posting? Or is it just someone's preference, or feeling in a particularly shitty mood one day?

VF

The content sharing rule has been a rule for years here. When the owner policed it himself people were banned permanently no questions asked first offence. So we are being pretty damn generous now just warning them at first.

And do you honestly think the producers sponsor the site? A site that barely breaks even financially? No one is paying Superbowl ad rates for the few ads we have running.

Irony: Asking if there has been any problem with these type of posts when one of the dead companies you mentioned (DWW) died because of piracy. It is like standing in front of the Holocaust Museum asking "When have the Jews really face discrimination ? I just don't see it  "

Also we have been regarded as a piracy site by other sites. Gee I wonder how that happened? WildAtHeart is the exception to the rule that pro piracy folks like to claim is the majority. The majority really won't go back to the producer and buy their stuff. They just do more searches on pornhub since they feel entitled to free shit.

Part of the reason the site exists is for the ACTIVE video portion of it to be kept alive by allowing a way fro producers to help sell their product. I sense it upsets you that the industry isn't filled with men and women who just want to these fights for free but it is what it is.

And no posting a link to a free copy of a fight along side where you can buy it isn't cool. The producer themselves can of course but it seems rather disingenuous for someone else to do so.

And we ask people who report such links to tell us which producer it is so we can determine is it is indeed still for sale. That being said the original copyright holder could still ask it be removed. And some of these dead companies from what I can tell, still have others selling their libraries

One suggestion was to remove this section entirely. I still like to think it has its place for fights from tv and movies, stuff caught in real life and fights from companies whose product may be more public domain.

Also your "robbed of a few bucks " makes it sound like you think catfight producers are like MGM or Sony. A massive corporation that can afford this and not a small business that gets hit in the nuts by piracy. 100 views is about a grand of lost revenue. I think that would HURT a lot of these producers.

If we get complaints we react to them. If someone is stupid and makes it real obvious they are posting pirated content they get slapped.

And a complete reshuffling of how the board has functioned? Do NOT post links to pirated content. is right in the board description. Rather clear it is.

  I wanted to respond but i thought that was painfully obvious thanks for clarifying the forums stance on this Nutmeg having Piracy links on here doesn't help producers that announce fights on here only aids in their demise. And you have a duty of care to them which i have witnessed you and your team perform for years good job.

[vidfan2005]

So, this site doesn't make money but promotes producers with banner ads? I just wondered why suddenly a mod who has never been on this board for several years decided to "pop in" and start taking things down. Does anyone think for a moment that someone posting a link to something on a generic site like PornHub is making a concerted effort to destroy someone's business. I was depicted as a kid annoyed at the closing of a candy store -- whereas I could define those who defend this newly-watched-over status as fellow fans of catfights "playing adult" (and rather poorly at that). Honestly, has this been an issue -- did some producer complain, or did you just decide it was time to "police" this board? And the Nazi reference was fascinating....

I understand the financial exigencies of encouraging these folks to keep doing what they're doing. But the sudden clampdown did come out of a clear blue sky -- you can say that what you're doing adheres to policy, but you haven't done it in the years I've been here. You've never posted here in those years, you've never taken a hand in the running of the board. Was there a complaint registered, or were you getting bored with the world of cyberfights? If this has been going on for months, and the most I've seen have been the occasional reminder by a commenter to please post the original producer's page so people can buy their other products, has this really been a problem or, again, have you needed somewhere to flex the muscle of authority? The latter seems like the more obvious answer.

Going from absolutely no chastising threads/posts to a major "we're going to enforce the rules we've never enforced to date" is kind of a whiplash-fast change of course. I'm assuming that, again, you got a complaint from a specific producer (if so, please let us know the specifics, don't be so vague and ominous) or you were, again, simply bored and decided to see if there was a place your expertise as a mod could be put to more active use.

VF
P.S. Again, what's with the Holocaust reference? Really curious about where that warped little metaphor came in....

[Nutmeg]

VF,

I have 1000 plus posts (most of them as a mod/admin) and have taken action on this issue in the past including posting warnings. And as stated in my previous posts we have acted on this issue in the including bans.  Sorry if you didn't notice but that isn't my issue. I wasn't aware you were such an important member that you are to cc'd on all mod issues

And yes the site doesn't make money but producers who want to pay for an ad can run one and that is why the site doesn't lose more money. This isn't a hard concept to understand.

Yes there was complaints, most of our actions are based on complaints. And honestly, your reaction to all this isn't telling me there isn't that much pirated content here. If there wasn't your reaction would be "Good on you, you slapped a few guys that could spoil it for everyone enjoying it legitimately " Instead you are acting like the secret has been let out and now you won't be able to pirate to you heart's content. You seem WAY too upset about this. And again, not my fault you chose to pretend like this has never been enforced since another admin enforced the same thing before me. Except he just deleted the thread.

And in the past the threads were deleted and the members who posted it banned. No warnings. Again I post an warning and don't ban the people outright and I'm the one overstepping my bounds? We ll fuck it then, I will just delete and ban next time , you have me convinced

By the way what is with the "random" air quotes? Do you not realize many of these phrases you air quote are common phrases?

Actually posting the link to pornhub is less of an effort to disrupt someone's business than the guy who actually hosted it on pornhub. And given some of the dumb shit producers have pulled here in the name of competition that is actually the least absurd thing they could do. Doesn't mean the site will support piracy. Feel free to delete your account here at any time in protest BTW.

If you want specifics on complaints to the moderators/admins, become a moderator. And no we aren't looking.  The main reason one wants details on things like this is to figure out who to go after for complaining.And trust me policing the site isn't something I do for entertainment or because I am bored. Usually doing so is interrupting my day.

Also, why are you obsessed that I did cyberfights once?  Haven't done them in years  so I don't get the fascination. I am fairly certain the cat fight fetish isn't so limited that one can't be a fan of multiple aspects of it. Granted cyber, like any storytelling , does require intelligence and creativity so I can see why that would be something you may find alien and threatening.  Never mind then, I have my answer.

Also Adam thank you for correcting VF's  effort to paint  me in a certain light.. granted it may only work for someone who never looks beyond a few threads on the site. I am actually one of the most active mods/admins here.

My Holocaust museum reference was used to point out how stupid your defense of innocent piracy was invoking the name of a company killed by piracy.In both cases a thoughtless idiot is involved.  I could have used more complex metaphors but I suspect it would fly over your head.  If you are a Jew and are offended, well how was I to know.. outside I guess of you being cheap? If you are a Neo-nazi and offended, go fuck yourself.

Most sites don't let you post pirated material, if only for their own legal protection. I don't understand your sense of entitlement in this. Since the clips removed were ones to active producers products, I also don't understand your objection to them being removed. Unless you hadn't watched them yet.

[vidfan2005]

1,2,3,4 -- responses

I meant you haven't posted on HERE, on this forum. On this part of the forum. Never seen your nick on here until now. Just your way of saying "hi, folks!" I guess. And my way of saying, "hi!" back.

I didn't know you were a copy editor in your spare time. The quotes were most likely used because I was being sarcastic.

Hmmmm, that assumption that I'd be a Jew if I'm "cheap" (see, that's a quote from you -- quotation marks!) sorta gives it all away. I'm neither Jewish (and no, they ain't cheap, ya Aryan simp) nor am I neo-Nazi (but doesn't someone with initials NM dig that repellent "white pride" concept -- look at the quotation marks there, they're all ironic and stuff). I just though you coming up with a Holocaust reference on a catfight board discussion thread was fascinating and vomit-inducing, given discussions you've had in the past. So, the Jews are cheap, Meg? Beautiful -- I can just let you make my argument for me.

Praise be to someone who is so "active" on this board (see, that's quotations -- I'm quoting you, but I'm also mocking this silliness).

VF

[Nutmeg]

I have posted 22 times (now 23) in this part of the forum. Twice as much as you and you have been here three more years You likely don't recall me because I am not posting illegal content. I notice you don't seem to look at where producers post so it tells me how much you follow anything you might have to pay for. 

You do realize the stereotype of Jews being known for being tight with their money is rather common and well known.?  Google is your friend for more than finding pirated cat fight videos sir. It was more a knock on your love of the free vids.

You don't know why you used the air quotes? "The quotes were most likely used because I was being sarcastic." Are you brain damaged? You (presumably ) typed it and have no clue why you did? Just a good guess? Let us hope you never have to testify for a murder trial.

Of course you need me to make an argument for you, you clearly can't do one on your own .And spare me your faux disgust at the Holocaust reference. I have seen much worse directed at people here with little comment or complaint.

The true silliness is you getting mad that we enforced site rules without consulting with you first. Feel free to leave.

Discussion closed since at this point I feel like this is turning into child abuse dealing with you. And if we catch you pirating clips on here, thank Vidfan2005. He made us more interested in all the illegal clips he seems to indicate are here