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Spice Island actresses IRL fight

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Spice Island actresses IRL fight
« on: May 07, 2011, 05:48:33 PM »
Please tell me how the fight would end up and why.

Sorry about this, but I set up a second poll for an IRL fight between the actresses Barbara Valentin (Babs) and Eva Schauland (Nelly). In the future when I do these movie/TV fights I will include options of the characters fighting and then for an IRL fight between the actresses. The results would not be the same necessarily. The fight between the characters should be based on what you see about them in the movie/TV show. The IRL fight should be as you see the two real women going at it. I did a second poll here because I cannot change the voting options to allow multiple voting if I edit the poll.

So now suppose that Barbara Valentin and Eva Schauland went at it for real. Who would come out on top”

Barbara Valentin (Babs):
Born: 15 December, 1940 in Vienna, Austria
Height: ?? (looks to be about 1" to 3" taller than Eva Schauland
Weight: ?? (Would guess about 15 pounds or more heavier than Eva)
Measurements:  41-24-36 (Source: Celebrity Sleuth magazine) (The 41 I could believe. The 24 for the waist and 36 were obviously before Barbara added some padding to her waist and hips.

Eva Schauland (Nelly):
Born: 1935, in Danzig/Gdansk, Freie Stadt [now Gdansk, Poland]
Height: ??
Weight: ??
Measurements:  ? (but smaller breasts than Barbara. Waist and hips are also thinner than Barbara's.)
Horrors of Spider Island was released in April, 1960. So Barbara would have been 19 or 20 years old when the fight was filmed and Eva 24 or 25 years old.

Here are the fighters as the two women face off against one another. Barbara on the left and Nelly on the right:
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Eva on the left and Barbara on the right:
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You can refer back to the original poll by clicking on the picture below.
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« Last Edit: May 07, 2011, 11:57:39 PM by Glamour Fights »
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Re: Spice Island actresses IRL fight
« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2011, 06:32:48 PM »
I did a little research on the two actresses. The "Horrors of Spider Island' 'introduced' Barbara Valentin(e). That means it was her first major film or at least her first major B-Movie. Barbara was trying to make her way into the horror movie business. Eva Schauland has and had  appeared  in a few horror  movies. I like to think she resented an upstart like Barbara trying to push her out of the way. So I think we have an actress who wants to get established and an established star who wants to protect her position. For that reason i think a real fight between Barbara and Eva would be more intense than the staged fight between Babs and Nelly.

In this case I voted for the younger Barbara. I do think Eva would be nastier and fight dirtier, just as Nelly did. This would be even more so when Barbara starts to take command with her greater size and presumably strength. I say presumably because it isn't clear that Eva isn't actually stronger. It will be a hard fought battle with neither one dominating. the fight will ebb back and forth but Barbara will resort to hairpulling just as much as Eva. unlike Babs vs Nelly. The more experience Eva will have the advantage at the start but Babs will learn quickly. then her size comes into play and see starts to hurt Eva more than Eva hurts her. In the end Barbara will get on top of Eva and keep her there. Eva will have no choice but to give up as she won't be able to escape.

So I have Babs 0 and Nelly1
Barbara 1 and Eva 0
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Re: Spice Island actresses IRL fight
« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2011, 06:56:03 PM »
I vote for Eva !

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Re: Spice Island actresses IRL fight
« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2011, 06:27:33 PM »
This fight between Barbara Valentin(e) and Eva Schauland ended up with no winner. I would have liked to have seen one of them prevail but can live with a draw. Barbosa stuck with Barbara as he did with Babs. Byline changed his vote believing in a real fight Babara's size and youth. He though she would prevail when she resorted to hairpulling and slapping also, unlike her character who did little of either.

I also agree with byline that this fight would be more intense than the staged fight - an up and comer against a woman trying to hold her position as the superior woman and actress. My thought is that in such a fight as this in a B-Movie and two relatively unknown actresses the director would let them fight quite a bit on their own so their fighting styles would come. So I think Eva would be quicker, more aggressive, and nastier. Also more experienced. From having watched many competitive catfights, the late twenties seem to be the best age for women fighting on the average. The young Barbara would fight bravely but she would not be so used to having her hair pulled of be able to resist holds like scissors. Thus I think Eva would have won a close fight. But it ended up a draw.
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Re: Spice Island actresses IRL fight
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2011, 07:40:28 PM »
  Well, at the draws the vote of president counts double. And as the poll is yours and you believe that Eva would win… the winner is she. So I can keep on my negative record… (btw the guilty of draw is byline. It’s obviously…lol.         

 Sorry, barbosa, but I don't even get a vote never mind double. All I get is an opinion, no better no worse than yours. So you don't keep your record. I don't understand you comment about "the guilty of draw is byline". Do you mean he said Barbara would win but really believes Eva would win?
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Re: Spice Island actresses IRL fight
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2011, 03:37:10 PM »
  Well, at the draws the vote of president counts double. And as the poll is yours and you believe that Eva would win… the winner is she. So I can keep on my negative record… (btw the guilty of draw is byline. It’s obviously…lol.         

 Sorry, barbosa, but I don't even get a vote never mind double. All I get is an opinion, no better no worse than yours. So you don't keep your record. I don't understand you comment about "the guilty of draw is byline". Do you mean he said Barbara would win but really believes Eva would win?

  No, he changes his vote and made the draw…lol. If he had voted like the movie Eva would has win. Btw I hate the draws… 

Since my name has been taken in vain I must defend myself. i voted the way I thought the fights would turn out. It seemed clear to me that in the movie fight Nelly was the nasty one, the instigator, and was all over Babs. She would have slapped Babs and ripped out her hair until Babs was sobbing for mercy. But in real life I think Babara would have gone after Eva to show the older woman how tough she was. The would be more fire in the belly for Barbara than there was for Babs. Apparently I am not the only one wo tought this way. Of course Eva might slug Barbara in her soft belly and knock the fight right out of her if you prefer lol.
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