[wm1776]

What fights, particularly from ECC, ECNWC, Foxy Combat, DWW, Fighting Dolls, or Chaos (Russian) have the girls actually cry with tears in pain or defeat?  I think crying is the mark of a tough and emotional fight.

[cffightfan]

this fight begs for debate.  if you watch the entire 8mins you'll
see why?  when should a fight be stopped by a producer, as most
of the time the girls have a friend with them, but they are
usually restricted at the start as to what they can say and do. I've
seen live fights stopped by boyfriends, which in a way isn't fair
to a producer paying a lot of money to make the fight in the first place.
I'm thinking in this one both girls broke stated rules so it became nasty
in the end. 

each person has their on threshold to how much they will allow
a friend to take in punishment before they step in. it's a thin line,
but everyone wants to see the girls finish it without someone stepping
in but with this type emotion, it would be hard to let it go.  couldn't
tell if she was scared, hurt or crying because she won a submission
at 3mins clearly, but seems she was screwed out of the submission.


http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xcdoql_khloe-vs-diamond_sport

[sinclairfan]

Khloe vs Diamond on Crystal ended in crying.

[cffightfan]

I had mixed reactions to this, the fight was incredible, sexy girls, both fighting hard but then at the end one girl broke and it was horrible to see, she was devastated and that took the shine off. I do think this should have been stopped earlier and maybe even edited but I can also see that it was very even until that point so it's is a hard call

Another emotional fight was Cassie vs Emma at bitchfight, Cassie was such a bitch to Emma, she insulted her during the fight, toyed with her and showed Emma that whatever she did she could not hurt Cassie. An incredible fight and at the end Emma was full of tears, both angry tears and genuine sadness because she had lost her gravitas as one of the best fighters at bitchfight. Emma never recovered and basically never fought again.

makes me wonder if Emma was offered a rematch, maybe not for her protection
or maybe she just couldn't match Cassie's power, verbal assaults.
watching the clip in discussion again,  the girl on the bottom was clearly
beaten, yet could not say "I quit", or "I submit" she was crying at that point, yet
the girl on top kept taunting to say it. she seemed in control but due to the beating
she had taken wanted revenge, kinda surprised they didn't have to pull her off
the other girl. makes me wonder if the girl on top stopped because the girl started
frantically crying?
the producer wasn't going to stop this action no doubt.

[DoYouKnowWhoIAm?]

Tears are a turn on for many catfight fans, and I admit to being one of them. It’s not that I enjoy seeing women hurt. Tears of pure pain don’t do it for me. But if I see a woman crying out of pure emotion during a fight - from frustration, dissapointment, anger, whatever – that’s different. It tells me that winning or losing matters to her, and that makes it matter to me.

I’m not sure about the other companies mentioned here, but I’ve seen a few ECC fights where one of the ladies cried from pure emotion: Irish vs Regina 2, Lexie vs Johanna, Tracy vs Alex, and Irish vs Blair.

In Irish vs Blair, the loser cries from both pain and emotion at the end, then runs out of the studio, sobbing and distraught, and I hated seeing her in a state like that. Unlike the Crystal fight though, the producer could not be blamed this time for letting it go on too long.

The damage was caused by a single fast slap to the ear. And it happened so quickly that I didn’t understand, at first, why one girl suddenly stopped fighting, keeled over and submitted.  It was only when I saw the sick, dazed look on her face, and noticed that she was poking around in her ear with one finger, that I realised she had been badly hurt.

Slaps to the ear might not look like much, but they can mess you up even worse than a hard punch. The ear is responsible for balance as well as sound detection. It contains an arrangement of tiny, delicate bones and membranes, floating in a fluid which is very sensitive to vibrations. A fast, hard slap can cause a sudden rise in the air pressure within the ear. This in turn leads to dizziness, loss of balance, and, a few seconds later, nausea and intense pain for the unlucky person who it.

I suspected that’s what had happened so I emailed the producer, asked him, and found out that  I was right.

[Scottyb]

this fight begs for debate.  if you watch the entire 8mins you'll
see why?  when should a fight be stopped by a producer, as most
of the time the girls have a friend with them, but they are
usually restricted at the start as to what they can say and do. I've
seen live fights stopped by boyfriends, which in a way isn't fair
to a producer paying a lot of money to make the fight in the first place.
I'm thinking in this one both girls broke stated rules so it became nasty
in the end. 

each person has their on threshold to how much they will allow
a friend to take in punishment before they step in. it's a thin line,
but everyone wants to see the girls finish it without someone stepping
in but with this type emotion, it would be hard to let it go.  couldn't
tell if she was scared, hurt or crying because she won a submission
at 3mins clearly, but seems she was screwed out of the submission.


http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xcdoql_khloe-vs-diamond_sport

Damn. Feel bad seeing her that upset but I think this is a case of she had given every ounce of energy into beating her opponent and she was drained. I think she realized the girl in the red would not be denied. The girl in the red was clearly taking full control of the fight  and that frustrated her.

[DoYouKnowWhoIAm?]

Tears are a turn on for many catfight fans, and I admit to being one of them. It’s not that I enjoy seeing women hurt. Tears of pure pain don’t do it for me. But if I see a woman crying out of pure emotion during a fight - from frustration, dissapointment, anger, whatever – that’s different. It tells me that winning or losing matters to her, and that makes it matter to me.

I’m not sure about the other companies mentioned here, but I’ve seen a few ECC fights where one of the ladies cried from pure emotion: Irish vs Regina 2, Lexie vs Johanna, Tracy vs Alex, and Irish vs Blair.

In Irish vs Blair, the loser cries from both pain and emotion at the end, then runs out of the studio, sobbing and distraught, and I hated seeing her in a state like that. Unlike the Crystal fight though, the producer could not be blamed this time for letting it go on too long.

The damage was caused by a single fast slap to the ear. And it happened so quickly that I didn’t understand, at first, why one girl suddenly stopped fighting, keeled over and submitted.  It was only when I saw the sick, dazed look on her face, and noticed that she was poking around in her ear with one finger, that I realised she had been badly hurt.

Slaps to the ear might not look like much, but they can mess you up even worse than a hard punch. The ear is responsible for balance as well as sound detection. It contains an arrangement of tiny, delicate bones and membranes, floating in a fluid which is very sensitive to vibrations. A fast, hard slap can cause a sudden rise in the air pressure within the ear. This in turn leads to dizziness, loss of balance, and, a few seconds later, nausea and intense pain for the unlucky person who it.

I suspected that’s what had happened so I emailed the producer, asked him, and found out that  I was right.

I wrote a review of Irish vs Blair a while back. Here is part of it. Irish is the pretty girl in green.

Irish gets very emotional when she fights, sometimes to the verge of tears. Either Blair picked up on that or had seen one of Irish's previous matches in which she did cry. At any rate, she derides Irish as a crybaby throughout the fight, telling her repeatedly that she is going to end up in tears before it's over, and gets an angry and defiant response each time she does so.

Given a situation like that, for either one of those women to end up crying in front of the other would be almost unbearable, but that's what happened, and I'm sure that anyone who has seen this very bitter and emotional battle will understand why.

As it draws to a close, both have scored submissions and are looking tired. When the producer calls out, “Thirty seconds to go.” they suddenly spring into life and tear into each other like wildcats. Then one lashes out and catches the other with a very hard slap flush on the ear that leaves her dazed, distressed, and with no alternative but submission to an opponent who, at that moment, she probably hated as much as anybody she ever met in her life.
                             
                         

[harpoon]

That was a vicious fight between the 2 redheads and the take out at the end was brutal.... I can understand why the loser cried..... they really hated each other. Blair was bigger but Irish matched her all the way.... love that girl.

[Agent_X9]

In their early days, Ultimate Surrender tried to introduce nipple twisting and pinching as a legitimate move to make the opponent submit.
They only did one match of this kind: http://www.ultimatesurrender.com/site/shoot/2712-The-Pirate-1-0-vs-Jenya-0-0.html

I remember it was an incredibly hot and brutal fight. One girl, Jenya, was constantly pinned in a way she couldn't protect her breast. Then the opponent (The Pirate) proceeded to torture her nipples.
The match quickly escalated from sexy to violent.  During the match, The Pirate put Jenya one more time in a humiliating position, forcing her to expose her breasts. The Pirate of course exploited that vulnerability with a nipple attack. But the continuous assaults to her nipples had enraged Jenya so much she simply forgot she could ask for a submission. She kept on fighting despite the pain. Suddenly she started sobbing and crying.  The staff had to stop the match to calm and reassure her. Even The Pirate felt bad for her opponent's reaction and tried to comfort her: "Why you didn't submit???" she asked her.

After that match, I read somewhere that Ultimate Surrender declared illegal all similar painful attacks.
Even for a masochistic fighter, pain can be horrorific and can arise humiliation and bad feelings.

[DoYouKnowWhoIAm?]

Even The Pirate felt bad for her opponent's reaction and tried to comfort her: "Why you didn't submit???" she asked her.

They could have asked the same thing of Khloe after the Crystal fight mentioned above. It looked to me like the poor girl was so traumatised at the end she forgot she had to say "I give" before the beating would be over

[DoYouKnowWhoIAm?]

That was a vicious fight between the 2 redheads and the take out at the end was brutal.... I can understand why the loser cried..... they really hated each other. Blair was bigger but Irish matched her all the way.... love that girl.

I love Irish too. She's the prettiest of all the ECC girls, imo, and always fights to the bitter end, no matter how tough the going gets.