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Why do we love this?

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Offline lumberjack66

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Why do we love this?
« on: December 27, 2017, 01:09:13 AM »
In a different thread, Watcherpete (and several others) mentioned that part of the problem with explaining why women fighting is such a turn on for us to their wife is that they "just can't put it into words."  After failing it completely with my wife, I have been obsessed with this question.  How do we break it to our wives and how do we put it into words.

So far the best way I have come up with is to let her know you have a "deep dark secret" that you need to share.  But you are worried.  She will of course want to know, but you need to delay as long as possible.  Let her mind come up with the most horrible things she can.  And then finally confess it to her.  By then, it will not seem as terrible as she thought.  I think the struggle there is if the fantasy is about her or not.  In my case, I think it would have been better if I told her she were the center of my fantasy.  My wife HATES when I look at other women so I think that she would want to be in my fantasies even if she doesn't approve of them.

But then comes the dreaded question... "Why does this turn you on?"  I think the answer varies a lot.  I can trace my interest to a fight I saw as a young boy.  It has always been there.  Maybe it was an early impression?  I suspect for most of us there is a primative response just as there is with most fighting, male or female.  It is built into us.  We get aroused for the same reason many women are turned on by boxing or pro-wrestling.  But not sure that is the "Right" answer.  What is it that women want to hear?  What would be acceptable and move the conversation forward?  We of course want to get to the truth, but in a way that we don't just have our wives completely shut us down.

What do you all think?
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Offline rin753

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Re: Why do we love this?
« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2017, 02:55:33 AM »
We get aroused for the same reason many women are turned on by boxing or pro-wrestling. 

Jack,

I don't want to take away from the importance of your post, but as to the sentence above, unless you can find me a woman who masturbates while watching WWE, I don't think that it is anywhere near being the same thing as our fetish.

Rich

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« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2017, 06:29:18 PM »
I am not saying that all women are turned on in the same way seeing a boxing match or wwe as we are seeing a fvf match.  If you are with a woman that is turned on the same way, then you probably don't need to explain it.  I think the difference is women being turned on seeing a fight is almost sanctioned by society.  I have been to a few boxing matches and you will see mom next door types cheering on fighters like it was a mad max movie.  Nobody is offended or horrified by it.  There may be a few knowing smiles around her, but that is about it.  Not all women are turned on like that or as excited.  But many are.  You see kind of the same thing with a bar fight.  Even if it is two women fighting you almost always hear the women cheering louder than the guys.  They may not be turned on, but they are definitely excited.  Again, I think it is something left over from caveman days where the strongest got the mates.  Both male and female.  But our society has put on the message that women don't fight and men do for a very very long time.  And it is wrong for men to be turned on by women fighting, but OK for women to be turned on.  Why do you think the WWE has such handsome good looking guys?  Do you think that is for us?  Or for their female fans?  What is interesting is that the last 40 years there has been a blurring of the lines.  There is a good chunk of our society that say men fighting is barbaric (anti-football, anti-hockey, anti-boxing, etc.) and anybody that likes it is a fool or dullard.  At the same time another chunk is good with women fighting.  In many of the youtube video's the women meet in an arranged fight with a large crowd cheering them on and straight up brawl like guys.  Nobody is saying they are unlady like or telling them to stop.  If anything they are yelling that pulling hair is unfair.  I have seen police reports that show female violent crime is skyrocketing.  And in many ways passing up the male violence.  You are also seeing it in the action movies from Hollywood.  Women fighting in the movies is almost common.  They generally aren't fighting each other, but a single hot 120 lbs women is clearing a room full of muscle bound combat ready guys.  Occasionally it is now the climax of the movie to have the show down between the two super chicks.  Which is why you are seeing almost no messy wrestling or foxy boxing at the bars.  It is too common now and therefore not titillating enough to bring in crowds.  Maybe it is affecting the size of our group as well.  As it is no longer taboo, it looses its power???  At least that is my theory. 
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Re: Why do we love this?
« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2017, 03:02:07 AM »
I am not saying that all women are turned on in the same way seeing a boxing match or wwe as we are seeing a fvf match.

Correct.  We have a fetish regarding fvf.  Women who like mvm are primarily entertained by it.