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Catzreview. How do they do it?
« on: June 13, 2012, 07:50:00 PM »
Keep on finding so many new girls who are willing to fight on camera, topless and unscripted, with other girls for our enjoyment, is the question I'm asking.
The other day I was reading the thread about ECNWC's latest fights; reading about the difficulty that producer has, even with his deep pockets and generous nature, in doing what catzreview seem to be accomplishing with ease - recruiting fresh talent quickly enough to keep up with the fans demand for new content.
In a similar vein, I remember the bru haha that went on in one of CapitalCityCatfights threads: The producer complaining about other companies poaching his girls as soon as their matches were released, and various people who seemed to know a bit about the business predicting that he would fold quickly unless he started filming topless fights. And, given that he was focusing on short, one submission matches that sold for $10 dollars or thereabouts, topless would be difficult, if not impossible to accomplish, because the 'short and cheap' format meant that he wouldn't be able to pay potential fighters enough to induce them to do it.
Catzreview though, with a much smaller pool of potential talent to work with than their US counterparts, are selling topless, one-submission-wins it fights priced, sometimes almost ridiculously cheaply, according to duration, and have not only upped their release rate to two matches per month but are introducing new girls at about the same rate.
And these are genuine, unscripted matches. Not scripted rolling and posing but REAL fights with the possibility of REAL pain and humiliation for the losers, whose friends and menfolk are very likely going to be waiting to watch the videos when they are released to see how their girl got on.
So how do they do it? I don't know. But I think they deserve some respect and recognition for the fact that they are doing it, AND turning a profit too,



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Re: Catzreview. How do they do it?
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2012, 12:55:36 AM »
Spot on,njcatfan. But it's the sheer number of new recruits that Catzreview are coming up with lately, and the speed at which they film, edit and release their fights which I find surprising and impressive.


Rbb, what you say is true, face slapping and body punching ARE another thing, but so, apparently, is the way ECNWC film their fights. They don't just let the girls go at each other till one gives up, like the other producers mentioned. Instead, they film them over the course of a whole afternoon, with breaks to allow them to recover when they get tired, then edit and merge the resultant footage before releasing it as a fight. Obviously, doing it that way, the girls are going to be able to absorb more punishment and cope better with the rough tactics used. ECNWC also pay a lot more than other producers. At least, that's what is says in the thread I mentioned earlier. But they still have difficulty finding girls who are willing to fight for real.
« Last Edit: June 14, 2012, 01:07:43 AM by kafkod »

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Re: Catzreview. How do they do it?
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2012, 01:20:53 PM »
The reason ECNWC find it harder to recruit is that they expect the girls to fight HARD and for REAL

A lot of girls back out when they realise its real fighting as happened in the recent Jemma and Hollie shoot

I have enjoyed some of the catz club and catzreview stuff but for me it stops short of being real fighting

unscripted ...yes

Real ... no

ask yourself this ?

If two girls were in a REAL life potential catfight situation would they walk up to eachother slowly ,grab eachother round the neck ,walk in a clockwise circle holding eachother for 2 mins then fall on the ground ?
If they got on top would they slap the other girl in the face if they got the chance or would they rather slap her on the leg ?

I Dont think so !!!

REAL catfights are where the girls tear in to eachother slapping , pulling hair and going all out to win

we all have different tastes on here and thats fine but it really gets my back up when producers label material as REAL CATFIGHTS when they obviously are not

Producers ask what do you wanna see ? 99% of the time the answer is  real catfights ,sexy clothes and no wrestling rings .

This is more than often ignored and no one has took the bull by the horns and managed to get girls to catfight for real

REAL wresting would be a more accurate description for most producers and would give the potential buyer a more accurate description of what they are buying

In my opinion only Crystal and ECNWC have come anywhere near close to real catfights

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Re: Catzreview. How do they do it?
« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2012, 08:34:03 PM »
ask yourself this ?

If two girls were in a REAL life potential catfight situation would they walk up to eachother slowly ,grab eachother round the neck ,walk in a clockwise circle holding eachother for 2 mins then fall on the ground ?
If they got on top would they slap the other girl in the face if they got the chance or would they rather slap her on the leg ?

I Dont think so !!!


Ask yourself this Billy ... If two girls were in a real life catfight would you expect them to keep on fighting for a whole afternoon?

Would you expect there to be a guy with a camera controlling everything that happened, and that when either one of the girls got tired she would be able to sit down and have a rest and a breather till she was able to carry on fighting again as hard as before?

And if the rules of the fight allow punching, face slapping and hair pulling, wouldn't a girl in a REAL fight situation just use those very effective tactics to try and defeat her opponent as quickly as possible? Or would she actually rather tear clothes, give wedgies and mess around with the other girls vagina?

Finally Billy, do you actually seriously believe that two untrained girls could go at each other flat out for 45 mins without slowing down or running out of steam?  Something that not even a world class boxer or elite level mixed martial artist would be able to do?

I don't think so either.

The truth is that all of the producers mentioned here stage RULES catfights. And they all edit their footage to some extent so that we only get to see as much of what actually happened as they want us to see.


For me, ECNWC's longer fights don't work because the way they are filmed takes the element of fatigue out of the equation. And fatigue - the fact that one of the girls might just have more stamina than the other - is too important as a factor in determining the outcome of a real fight to be done away with like that.


Having said that, the shorter fights that I've seen from ECNWC, where the girls just go at it without a break till one quits, have been outstanding.
« Last Edit: June 14, 2012, 09:36:51 PM by kafkod »

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Re: Catzreview. How do they do it?
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2012, 09:15:49 AM »
 ;D who mentioned any need for girls to go all out for 45 mins ?
Ive done a lot of boxing and i know how tiring fighting is
i would rather see 4/5 mins of real action than 45 mins of wrestling ring tickling giggling
also who mentioned fighting on hard floors ??? there are plenty places with safe environments and soft flooring that dont involve a rocky bilbao boxing or wrestling ring
for me ( and many others on this forum have said the same ) the ring takes the femeninity out of a fight
The point i was making is if producers want to make grappling ,wrestling rolling around on a ring floor fights thats fine but dont adveertise them as REAL catfights -THEY ARENT !!


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Re: Catzreview. How do they do it?
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2012, 12:27:26 PM »
;D who mentioned any need for girls to go all out for 45 mins ?
Ive done a lot of boxing and i know how tiring fighting is
i would rather see 4/5 mins of real action than 45 mins of wrestling ring tickling giggling
also who mentioned fighting on hard floors ??? there are plenty places with safe environments and soft flooring that dont involve a rocky bilbao boxing or wrestling ring
for me ( and many others on this forum have said the same ) the ring takes the femeninity out of a fight
The point i was making is if producers want to make grappling ,wrestling rolling around on a ring floor fights thats fine but dont adveertise them as REAL catfights -THEY ARENT !!




The reason I mentioned 45 mins is that that's how long some of ECNWC's fights seem to last, after they merge all the footage they've shot into one continuous sequence.

I understand why you might feel that the ring takes the femininity out of a fight. But to me, if the rules allow slapping and hair pulling, that's catfighting, not wrestling.

And if the girls are not working from a script, or following directions from the producer, that's REAL catfighting. End of story.


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Re: Catzreview. How do they do it?
« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2012, 07:26:05 PM »
I would point out that I have been a producer for quite a while now and I can spot a fake a mile off. kafkod is of course quite right.  If I told my girls that they could punch, they would turn up, punched their opponent in the face extremely hard.  Leave them lying on the floor and come over to me and grabbed their money.  Not much of a fight.  The same more or less applies to slapping.  In one of my first fights a girl slapped the other extremely hard in the face, breaking my rules.  We had to give her smelling salts and a couple of minutes to get her bearings back.  Again fights like that would not last very long at all.

Everyone who buys my Fights knows they are 100% real within the rules.  I understand that some people don't like rings, that's fair enough, but it doesn't stop a catfight from being real.  I am not knocking any other producers....

I would also like to point out that several of my knockers have been invited along to view my catfight's..... live.  No one has taken me up on my offer thus far.  In fact one is supposed to have been coming along to sponsor a catfight, insisting that mine are the only ones that are 100% real.

Thank you to everyone who has contributed to this topic.



« Last Edit: June 16, 2012, 08:45:22 PM by CATZREVIEW »
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Re: Catzreview. How do they do it?
« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2012, 07:29:52 PM »
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To answer the question at the top of the page..... I couldn't possibly comment as people would probably be listening. :) it's not just money ;D

There is no clever videography involved.  One of the first fights I sponsored had 4 rounds in it. By the time the professional videographer had finished you could not tell where one round started and the other one ended.  And the girls arrived together and had a good chat before they got started.  That's a big no-no for me.

100% hair pulling in my catfights: in this random image you can clearly see hair on the mats.  Haven't seen much hair loss in other so-called real catfights ;)



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My girls turn up not knowing who they will be fighting.  They do not even meet until they are in the ring.  The only exception is when we do a rematch but they still do not speak or socialise until after the fight, if ever.  Just thought that tip bit of information might help you fans enjoy my fights a bit more. :)
« Last Edit: June 17, 2012, 05:31:54 AM by CATZREVIEW »
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Re: Catzreview. How do they do it?
« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2012, 05:49:55 AM »
The reason ECNWC find it harder to recruit is that they expect the girls to fight HARD and for REAL

A lot of girls back out when they realise its real fighting as happened in the recent Jemma and Hollie shoot

I have enjoyed some of the catz club and catzreview stuff but for me it stops short of being real fighting

unscripted ...yes

Real ... no

ask yourself this ?

If two girls were in a REAL life potential catfight situation would they walk up to eachother slowly ,grab eachother round the neck ,walk in a clockwise circle holding eachother for 2 mins then fall on the ground ?
If they got on top would they slap the other girl in the face if they got the chance or would they rather slap her on the leg ?

I Dont think so !!!

REAL catfights are where the girls tear in to eachother slapping , pulling hair and going all out to win

we all have different tastes on here and thats fine but it really gets my back up when producers label material as REAL CATFIGHTS when they obviously are not

Producers ask what do you wanna see ? 99% of the time the answer is  real catfights ,sexy clothes and no wrestling rings .

This is more than often ignored and no one has took the bull by the horns and managed to get girls to catfight for real

REAL wresting would be a more accurate description for most producers and would give the potential buyer a more accurate description of what they are buying



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 Hey catz please dont get me wrong im not having a go
it was just a suggestion please keep up the good work
your fights are indeed real i enjoy them and will continue to download them
It would just be good to maybe vary the location and outfits from time to time
As i say just a suggestion hope you werent offended
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You never did get back to me about the tournament you were going to sponsor for 2 1/2 thousand euros, well you and your two Greek friends.  Apologies, I seem to have got the amount wrong "6300 euro sponshorship."

Maybe another time ;)
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Re: Catzreview. How do they do it?
« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2012, 05:34:00 PM »
 :) Look ive said in the past I RESPECT CATZREVIEW - The fights are real but the ring turns me off
sorry but it just does
As i said I have downloaded and enjoed catzreview fights and will continue to do so
Particularly the Toony v rocket fight that you pictured here 
you asked for feedback from customers and I gave you genuine feedback of what i wanted to see
Please dont have a go at me for answering a question you asked
I said it would be good if you maybe had girls fighting in skirts or somethin femenine .At the time i believe there were a number of posts that agreed with this and said they would like to see this to and maybe not in a ring .you have done fights with just mats down in the past .just stick the girls in somethin femenine and VOILA !! I am sure you would get a great response

im not sure if it was me you were implying had Greek friends who wanted to sponsor a fight but i think you may be getting me confused with someone else

CATZREVIEW as ive said in the past are a good producer but i just wish you would change outfits and allow face slapping.

This is just my wish list respectfully put forward to you


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« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2012, 07:36:44 PM »
:) Look ive said in the past I RESPECT CATZREVIEW - The fights are real but the ring turns me off
sorry but it just does
As i said I have downloaded and enjoed catzreview fights and will continue to do so
Particularly the Toony v rocket fight that you pictured here  
you asked for feedback from customers and I gave you genuine feedback of what i wanted to see
Please dont have a go at me for answering a question you asked
I said it would be good if you maybe had girls fighting in skirts or somethin femenine .At the time i believe there were a number of posts that agreed with this and said they would like to see this to and maybe not in a ring .you have done fights with just mats down in the past .just stick the girls in somethin femenine and VOILA !! I am sure you would get a great response

im not sure if it was me you were implying had Greek friends who wanted to sponsor a fight but i think you may be getting me confused with someone else

CATZREVIEW as ive said in the past are a good producer but i just wish you would change outfits and allow face slapping.

This is just my wish list respectfully put forward to you



Yes I must have you confused with this person.

I will have a word with John and see you someone has borrowed your e-mail address or has a similar one to you.

Yes thank you for the feedback. At the moment I do not need to change anything as my company is consistently number one on the clips4sale website, so obviously I must be doing something right.  I can see where you're coming from, but if I do stockings and suspenders then I will upset the people who just want nude.  If I do nude then I upset the people who just want topless. As for the ring I tend to find most people are happy with it. In this business is impossible to please everyone. :)

Good to hear you're an avid supporter of my content. :)

Thanks again for the feedback.  (I must try and find out who that other guy is)

« Last Edit: June 17, 2012, 09:43:26 PM by CATZREVIEW »
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Re: Catzreview. How do they do it?
« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2012, 11:51:24 PM »
 ;D I know CATZ you cant please everyone

you could mix it up and maybe do some nude ,some topless ,some lingerie

The toony rocket fight was great and wasnt in a ring just a room with mats down and Rocket had suspenders on for the fight

hope you find the "Greek" with the 6000 euros to sponsor the tournament but I can assure you it aint me lol

 

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« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2012, 12:01:40 AM »
;D I know CATZ you cant please everyone

you could mix it up and maybe do some nude ,some topless ,some lingerie

The toony rocket fight was great and wasnt in a ring just a room with mats down and Rocket had suspenders on for the fight

hope you find the "Greek" with the 6000 euros to sponsor the tournament but I can assure you it aint me lol

 

We have done some T-shirt ripping catfight's. I have just filmed a catfight where the girls have permission to rip each other's thongs off during the fight.  Unfortunately the fight was so intense that ripping thongs off was the last thing on their minds! :o

In the Toony vs Rocket catfight both ladies wore thongs as per usual. Maybe you were thinking of SusieLee as she had a catfight in stockings and suspenders which she took off at the earliest opportunity when she realised that you cannot grip the mats with stockings on! Girls who fight to win do not wear stockings because they cannot grip the mats. Of course you are right the Toony vs Rocket catfight is now a classic which still sells today!

In the first picture of a couple of threads back, you can see Hurricane and Tornado ripping each other to shreds.  An early but very vicious catfight. ;)

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Re: Catzreview. How do they do it?
« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2012, 02:50:58 AM »
;D who mentioned any need for girls to go all out for 45 mins ?
Ive done a lot of boxing and i know how tiring fighting is
i would rather see 4/5 mins of real action than 45 mins of wrestling ring tickling giggling
also who mentioned fighting on hard floors ??? there are plenty places with safe environments and soft flooring that dont involve a rocky bilbao boxing or wrestling ring
for me ( and many others on this forum have said the same ) the ring takes the femeninity out of a fight
The point i was making is if producers want to make grappling ,wrestling rolling around on a ring floor fights thats fine but dont adveertise them as REAL catfights -THEY ARENT !!




The reason I mentioned 45 mins is that that's how long some of ECNWC's fights seem to last, after they merge all the footage they've shot into one continuous sequence.

I understand why you might feel that the ring takes the femininity out of a fight. But to me, if the rules allow slapping and hair pulling, that's catfighting, not wrestling.

And if the girls are not working from a script, or following directions from the producer, that's REAL catfighting. End of story.



I'm with you kafod, I'd rather not the ring, but it's the hairpulling and face slapping that does it for me. And it is hard to find good face slapping these days. I don't need jaw shattering just hard enough to make the other girl try to avoid it or give if she can't after a few.

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« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2012, 09:43:59 AM »

 


Sounds vicious, where does it rank with others you've filmed? I'm surprised they may not have gone at the thongs though if they were that into it.
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It is vicious, and as the new girl said, "I didn't realise it was real, real." as for its ranking, I haven't got round to editing it yet so you'll just have to wait until it gets released. ;)  You will have the privilege of being able to judge for yourselves. :)

it's not easy to rip another girls thong off when you're fighting for your reputation.

Thank you very much for your contribution :)
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