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Standing or kneeling??

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Offline shana

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Re: Standing or kneeling??
« Reply #30 on: June 24, 2014, 03:28:48 PM »
Kneeling starts look silly. 

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Re: Real vs. fake and crotch grabbing in FvsF
« Reply #31 on: June 25, 2014, 02:36:04 PM »
Standing or kneeling are both ok with me.

Crotch attacks in a catfight are like tickling in a wrestling match, it becomes a question of who is better able to put up with that particular tactic, rather than who is the better fighter/wrestler.
If you want to film women sexually molesting each other, rather than fighting, then fair enough, there is a market for that kind of stuff, I guess, but it isn't what I want to see.

Wedgies can be ok, when used as leverage or to distract and/or humiliate the opponent. But if a lady loses a fight simply because her knickers are made of a stronger fabric than her opponent's, which is what happened to Monica on at least one occasion, then that, to me, is a disappointing way for a catfight to end.



Couldn't agree more. It's good to hear that I have the right tactics for the ladies to use in their fights. I'm not particularly keen on crotch attacks. How many ladies in the street when fighting think of attacking their opponents crotch!

The crotch attack seem to be quite popular with other producers so I thought I would ask the question.
I think you will find what happened to Monica was down to her opponent tactics, which incidentally I do not wish to have repeated.

In rules catfighting certain ladies will always look to bend the rules and gain an advantage. :o

As a producer you do yourself a disservice when you use the term 'fake' in regards to FvsF productions.  That word elicits a vivid visceral  reaction from fans who have been screwed by producers offering bogus products.  A better term than 'fake' is 'staged'.  There are many FvsF matches that are staged well and they are amazing.  If the women can 'sell' the action it always makes for a more exciting scenario (depending on what you want to see).  With regards to crotch grabbing I think only little boys and delusional idiots expect it to be 'real'.  I, for one, am not interested in seeing a 5 second match and that's precisely what would happen crotch attacks were real.  However, I will not purchase a FvsF match that doesn't feature a heavy dose of breast and crotch grabbing...and that's final.  The reason other producers are doing it is because it sells and it's what the paying customers want to see.  Even FD and FC are moving in that direction so I guess, as a producer you have the choice of complying and supplying what fans demand or being a maverick and leaving yourself out of the sales cycle.  It's your choice. ;-)

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Re: Standing or kneeling??
« Reply #32 on: June 25, 2014, 03:11:44 PM »
Only time kneeling seems the way to go is when the two standing are stalling or just plain fooling around. When they are kneeling they at least grab each other pretty quickly.

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Re: Exactly! That's why I prefer kneeling. Ground action trumps standing.
« Reply #33 on: June 25, 2014, 08:08:44 PM »
Only time kneeling seems the way to go is when the two standing are stalling or just plain fooling around. When they are kneeling they at least grab each other pretty quickly.

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Re: Real vs. fake and crotch grabbing in FvsF
« Reply #34 on: June 26, 2014, 12:52:35 AM »
Standing or kneeling are both ok with me.

Crotch attacks in a catfight are like tickling in a wrestling match, it becomes a question of who is better able to put up with that particular tactic, rather than who is the better fighter/wrestler.
If you want to film women sexually molesting each other, rather than fighting, then fair enough, there is a market for that kind of stuff, I guess, but it isn't what I want to see.

Wedgies can be ok, when used as leverage or to distract and/or humiliate the opponent. But if a lady loses a fight simply because her knickers are made of a stronger fabric than her opponent's, which is what happened to Monica on at least one occasion, then that, to me, is a disappointing way for a catfight to end.



Couldn't agree more. It's good to hear that I have the right tactics for the ladies to use in their fights. I'm not particularly keen on crotch attacks. How many ladies in the street when fighting think of attacking their opponents crotch!

The crotch attack seem to be quite popular with other producers so I thought I would ask the question.
I think you will find what happened to Monica was down to her opponent tactics, which incidentally I do not wish to have repeated.

In rules catfighting certain ladies will always look to bend the rules and gain an advantage. :o

As a producer you do yourself a disservice when you use the term 'fake' in regards to FvsF productions.  That word elicits a vivid visceral  reaction from fans who have been screwed by producers offering bogus products.  A better term than 'fake' is 'staged'. 


If staged action is sold as a real fight then it is indeed "fake"
By that definition, FoxyCombat have been selling fake fights from day one, and Fightingdolls are doing the same thing with their recent productions, at least, the ones I bought from them, which were definitely not what I would call real fights, but were being sold as such. In other words, they are FAKE.

Many Catzreview fights do feature breast grabbing. Others have some crotch grabbing, though that tactic is always used with discretion by the ladies involved. The reason, presumably, is that they don't want their opponents to start using it without discretion against them. And these are real fights, which means that the tactics used are down to the fighters themselves, not the producer's instructions.


With regards to crotch grabbing I think only little boys and delusional idiots expect it to be 'real'.  I, for one, am not interested in seeing a 5 second match and that's precisely what would happen crotch attacks were real. 

So fights which feature the kind of crotch grabbing action you want to see are not real fights. Whether you want to call them "fake" or "staged" depends upon how honest the producer is prepared to be with the fans who buy them.


However, I will not purchase a FvsF match that doesn't feature a heavy dose of breast and crotch grabbing...and that's final.  The reason other producers are doing it is because it sells and it's what the paying customers want to see.  Even FD and FC are moving in that direction so I guess, as a producer you have the choice of complying and supplying what fans demand or being a maverick and leaving yourself out of the sales cycle.  It's your choice. ;-)


Chinese meals are the most popular choice for take-away customers in the UK nowadays. Does that mean that curry houses and pizza parlours should stop selling curry and pizza and start selling chow-mein instead?
I don't know if FD and FC sell more videos than Catzreview, maybe they do. But fans buy from Catzreview, and ECC, and Freshfite, when they want to see a REAL fight, not staged action or acting. Is that really so difficult to understand?


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He's actually a human being.  The character he plays is from the planet Krypton.  The actual actor can not really fly.  It's quite understandable how some who may be a bit comprehension impaired insist on confusing the actual human actor with his character and expect him to have super-strength or X-Ray vision or be able to actually fly.  For these people we can make an exception and quell their disappointment by simply saying:  "Yes Honey BooBoo.  Warner Brothers did a very bad thing by selling their fake TV character to the entire world."  Bizzaro Kafkod:  "Women not beat each other to pulp for real?  Me fly straight home!!

There are a few older Japanese movies featuring fights between geishas, lady cops vs. bad girl villians etc. where the  FvsF action is obviously not real but the breast squeezing and crotch grabbing is very well done.  I don't imagine for one second that either of the women were actually hurting each other. I enjoyed those scenes immensely because the actresses knew how to sell the scene and the director knew how to pull that performance out of the actors.  I don't believe the crotch/breast grabbing I saw in ECNCW CF-48 was 'staged'. Unfortunately there was not enough of it and what little there was was less than satisfying. 

Whether staged or otherwise, I know precisely what I want to see and exactly how I wish to see it. If 2 fat women are wrestling nude I don't give a damn whether it is 'real'.  It doesn't matter because I don't want to see that crap.  FC and FD make a superior product. FreshFite doesn't. They will be doors shut down-out of business by the end of 2015.  I'd much rather watch 2 smoking hot women perform an amazingly staged intense wrestling match featuring amazing crotch/breast grabbing than watch 2 orangutans in bike shorts and T-shirts  wrestle each other for 25 minutes.  I couldn't care less if the orangutans are 'real' and they are 'really' wrestling.  As a consummate FvsF expert and connoisseur, unlike Kafkod, I neither request nor require a label detailing whether the contents of what I'm watching are 'real' no more than I need a sommelier to  tell me whether I'm drinking red or white wine.  I know the difference between the 2 so the real question that matters is which flavor suits my fancy.  But that's just me. ;-)


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  Bizzaro Kafkod:  "Women not beat each other to pulp for real?  Me fly straight home!!

I don't want to see women beating each other to a pulp. What I want to see is real wrestling or rules catfighting, preferably between untrained women, with no punching or kicking to the head and face.

And I'm not saying the crotch grabbing in ECNWC-48 was staged, but the fight definitely was, otherwise Hollie would have demolished Gemma in seconds. Personally, I don't find her at all sexy or attractive, but Hollie can obviously fight when she wants to, I'll give her that.


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Re: Real vs. fake and crotch grabbing in FvsF
« Reply #37 on: June 26, 2014, 06:25:21 AM »
Standing or kneeling are both ok with me.

Crotch attacks in a catfight are like tickling in a wrestling match, it becomes a question of who is better able to put up with that particular tactic, rather than who is the better fighter/wrestler.
If you want to film women sexually molesting each other, rather than fighting, then fair enough, there is a market for that kind of stuff, I guess, but it isn't what I want to see.

Wedgies can be ok, when used as leverage or to distract and/or humiliate the opponent. But if a lady loses a fight simply because her knickers are made of a stronger fabric than her opponent's, which is what happened to Monica on at least one occasion, then that, to me, is a disappointing way for a catfight to end.



Couldn't agree more. It's good to hear that I have the right tactics for the ladies to use in their fights. I'm not particularly keen on crotch attacks. How many ladies in the street when fighting think of attacking their opponents crotch!

The crotch attack seem to be quite popular with other producers so I thought I would ask the question.
I think you will find what happened to Monica was down to her opponent tactics, which incidentally I do not wish to have repeated.

In rules catfighting certain ladies will always look to bend the rules and gain an advantage. :o

As a producer you do yourself a disservice when you use the term 'fake' in regards to FvsF productions.  That word elicits a vivid visceral  reaction from fans who have been screwed by producers offering bogus products.  A better term than 'fake' is 'staged'. 


If staged action is sold as a real fight then it is indeed "fake"
By that definition, FoxyCombat have been selling fake fights from day one, and Fightingdolls are doing the same thing with their recent productions, at least, the ones I bought from them, which were definitely not what I would call real fights, but were being sold as such. In other words, they are FAKE.

Many Catzreview fights do feature breast grabbing. Others have some crotch grabbing, though that tactic is always used with discretion by the ladies involved. The reason, presumably, is that they don't want their opponents to start using it without discretion against them. And these are real fights, which means that the tactics used are down to the fighters themselves, not the producer's instructions.


With regards to crotch grabbing I think only little boys and delusional idiots expect it to be 'real'.  I, for one, am not interested in seeing a 5 second match and that's precisely what would happen crotch attacks were real. 

So fights which feature the kind of crotch grabbing action you want to see are not real fights. Whether you want to call them "fake" or "staged" depends upon how honest the producer is prepared to be with the fans who buy them.


However, I will not purchase a FvsF match that doesn't feature a heavy dose of breast and crotch grabbing...and that's final.  The reason other producers are doing it is because it sells and it's what the paying customers want to see.  Even FD and FC are moving in that direction so I guess, as a producer you have the choice of complying and supplying what fans demand or being a maverick and leaving yourself out of the sales cycle.  It's your choice. ;-)


Chinese meals are the most popular choice for take-away customers in the UK nowadays. Does that mean that curry houses and pizza parlours should stop selling curry and pizza and start selling chow-mein instead?
I don't know if FD and FC sell more videos than Catzreview, maybe they do. But fans buy from Catzreview, and ECC, and Freshfite, when they want to see a REAL fight, not staged action or acting. Is that really so difficult to understand?



You obviously have not seen the Banking Crises set of catfights done by Foxy Combat. That is not fake at all.

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