[DoYouKnowWhoIAm?]

The female mammary glands are delicate organs and a womans breasts are not protected by a sheath of muscle, like a man's "breasts". Injuries to the mammary gland are a serious issue and can have long lasting repurcussions.

This is why female boxers and MMA fighters, unlike their male counterparts, are allowed to wear breast protectors, of a similar construction to the cups male fighters wear to protect their genitals, when they fight.

A catfight producer like James has a duty of care towards his performers and he has to take that duty seriously.

In both males and females, the nipples are an erogenous zone and have more nerve endings than other parts of the body, making them more sensitive.

A womans nipples are larger and have more nerve endings than a man's. If it hurts like hell for a man to have his nipples tweaked - which it does - how much more painful must it be when a woman has that done to her?

We want to see rough, real fights. But we don't want the experience of taking part in them to be so painful and distressing for the ladies concerned that they don't want to come back and fight again.

[jaybee]

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Just to clarify Kafkod, as you seem to have misunderstood what I said. What I meant was when they work for Catzreview they are tough catfighters, not performing erotic entertainers. I'm fully aware that some of the girls have a background in lap dancing, stripping etc. and fetish modeling. But when Catzreview employs them, they are employed as catfighters not to put on an erotic staged performance, but an actual 100% competitive catfight which all us fans love to see. It's sexy I won't deny it, and still part of the fetish industry as you correctly point out. But in the same way that if one of these girls got a job down the supermarket stacking shelves, she'd be a shelf stacker, she wouldn't be an erotic entertainer then. For the same reason, when she works for Catzreview, she becomes a tough catfighter, not an erotic entertainer putting on a staged performance. Hope this clarifies what I meant.
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Which is why I think the interferance from the female referee is being questioned in the first place is because this is recognized as a 100% competitive catfight pain comes with the territory as long as it's in the rule book there was no need for the ref to intervene. Personally I feel the ref let her emotions get the best of her which speaks volumes of just how brutal this match was. If you noticed nothing was said until the victim started howling in pain. Seriously if you want a real catfight look no further than this. It's worrying me why haven't more people been talking about this fight. Let's get the word out.

[Ade.Scottsdale]

In the same way you wouldn't describe two women having a 100% competitive catfight on the street as an 'erotic performance', the same goes for the girls who fight for Catzreview. Though there are rules, it's still a 100% competitive catfight. That's why they are more accurately described as catfighters as opposed to erotic performers. I've never purchased a catfight video for the 'erotic performance', but I do purchase these videos to see a catfight.

[DoYouKnowWhoIAm?]

In the same way you wouldn't describe two women having a 100% competitive catfight on the street as an 'erotic performance', the same goes for the girls who fight for Catzreview. Though there are rules, it's still a 100% competitive catfight. That's why they are more accurately described as catfighters as opposed to erotic performers. I've never purchased a catfight video for the 'erotic performance', but I do purchase these videos to see a catfight.

Girls fighting on the street are not doing it with the purpose of turning people on and selling videos, so that's a bad analogy.

Girls fighting on the street don't strip down to tiny thongs before they get stuck in, then proceed to rip their opponent's thong off, grab her breasts and tweak her nipples.

The Catz girls strip down and use those tactics to try and win because a Catzrevue fight is both a real catfight and an erotic performance. You can't separate those 2 aspects of the fetish when you talk about unscripted fights, and I don't understand why you are so fixated on trying to do that.

[TheWatchman504]

Regarding Flawless, I was told Flawless was not returning because she was demanding too much money not because she was good at fighting.

[Ade.Scottsdale]

In the same way you wouldn't describe two women having a 100% competitive catfight on the street as an 'erotic performance', the same goes for the girls who fight for Catzreview. Though there are rules, it's still a 100% competitive catfight. That's why they are more accurately described as catfighters as opposed to erotic performers. I've never purchased a catfight video for the 'erotic performance', but I do purchase these videos to see a catfight.

Girls fighting on the street are not doing it with the purpose of turning people on and selling videos, so that's a bad analogy.

Girls fighting on the street don't strip down to tiny thongs before they get stuck in, then proceed to rip their opponent's thong off, grab her breasts and tweak her nipples.

The Catz girls strip down and use those tactics to try and win because a Catzrevue fight is both a real catfight and an erotic performance. You can't separate those 2 aspects of the fetish when you talk about unscripted fights, and I don't understand why you are so fixated on trying to do that.

Actually it's a perfectly valid analogy that demonstrates your error in judgement. That's why you think it's a 'bad analogy', not because it is bad, but because you disagree with how it highlights your error in definition. You are incorrect, but I wouldn't ever expect you to admit this due your emotional agenda and bias. For someone like you, winning an argument is more important than being reasonable and fair, it's what you are well known for according to what many people who have contacted me in the last week have told me. I just have to accept that you have very poor judgement when it comes to catfights, as your somewhat laughable comments and analysis on the new Suitefights Brooke vs. Charlie catfight release demonstrated to everyone. A video that is already receiving very high praise from all sectors of the catfight community, and inevitably will become a classic, regardless of what you erroneously think of it without even having actually seen the video yet. I'm perfectly fine with you calling them 'erotic performers' if you wish, my point is that 'catfighters' is a far more accurately descriptive term that refers to what they actually do, i.e. catfight, as opposed to erotically perform. That's why the company is called 'Catzreview' as opposed to 'Eroticreview'. Thanks

[Willie Slick]

The female mammary glands are delicate organs and a womans breasts are not protected by a sheath of muscle, like a man's "breasts". Injuries to the mammary gland are a serious issue and can have long lasting repurcussions.

This is why female boxers and MMA fighters, unlike their male counterparts, are allowed to wear breast protectors, of a similar construction to the cups male fighters wear to protect their genitals, when they fight.

A catfight producer like James has a duty of care towards his performers and he has to take that duty seriously.

In both males and females, the nipples are an erogenous zone and have more nerve endings than other parts of the body, making them more sensitive.

A womans nipples are larger and have more nerve endings than a man's. If it hurts like hell for a man to have his nipples tweaked - which it does - how much more painful must it be when a woman has that done to her?

We want to see rough, real fights. But we don't want the experience of taking part in them to be so painful and distressing for the ladies concerned that they don't want to come back and fight again.

This is almost too laughable to comment.....and its all been said before.....cannot understand why someone on this forum about catfighting insists on using the arguement that 2 large breasted women engaged in an arranged catfight would NOT want to attack her opponents breasts....hell they are the biggest targets available....and this is a fight....not a sewing circle.....we could spend all day debating various parts of a womans anatomy that could be bruised up in a catfight....and if we were to start lining out all the spots on a womans body that could get seriously hurt in a catfight....we would end up agreeing that the fighters must first be covered in bubble wrap before they enter the ring to fight....frankly I believe the risk to knee or neck is far greater than a few bruises on a breast....and here is a news flash for Dr. Kafkod....a womans breast is the one anotomical feature of a woman designed to take a pounding.....and if you dont believe me.....ask any nursing mother what it feels like to have a teething baby locked onto her titty.....for weeks on end.....makes a lift by the boobs pale in comparrison.....if anything....I believe that there was some concern that a relative new commer to this catfighting world got put up against possibly the toughest fighter in the CATZR stable.....and the producer only realized it once the fight had started.....and there was concern about a serious injury......but it was not going to happen as a result of 30 seconds worth of titty pulling.....so lets just agree that this whole medical arguement is a lot of bull comming forward simply to try and justify a very weak arguement.....for me....breast squeezing and hair pulling is what defines a catfight.....so let it happen.....just make sure both fighters arevup for the rules.....

[jaybee]

This is almost too laughable to comment.....and its all been said before.....cannot understand why someone on this forum about catfighting insists on using the arguement that 2 large breasted women engaged in an arranged catfight would NOT want to attack her opponents breasts....hell they are the biggest targets available....and this is a fight....not a sewing circle.....we could spend all day debating various parts of a womans anatomy that could be bruised up in a catfight....and if we were to start lining out all the spots on a womans body that could get seriously hurt in a catfight....we would end up agreeing that the fighters must first be covered in bubble wrap before they enter the ring to fight....frankly I believe the risk to knee or neck is far greater than a few bruises on a breast....and here is a news flash for Dr. Kafkod....a womans breast is the one anotomical feature of a woman designed to take a pounding.....and if you dont believe me.....ask any nursing mother what it feels like to have a teething baby locked onto her titty.....for weeks on end.....makes a lift by the boobs pale in comparrison.....if anything....I believe that there was some concern that a relative new commer to this catfighting world got put up against possibly the toughest fighter in the CATZR stable.....and the producer only realized it once the fight had started.....and there was concern about a serious injury......but it was not going to happen as a result of 30 seconds worth of titty pulling.....so lets just agree that this whole medical arguement is a lot of bull comming forward simply to try and justify a very weak arguement.....for me....breast squeezing and hair pulling is what defines a catfight.....so let it happen.....just make sure both fighters arevup for the rules.....
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I disagree women ARE too fragile I vote we wrap them up in bubble wrap as you suggested next time .  Catzreview...problems solved. Lol
Seriously though I couldn't have put it better myself.

[DoYouKnowWhoIAm?]

Regarding Flawless, I was told Flawless was not returning because she was demanding too much money not because she was good at fighting.

That could be true, I guess. James just said that he wouldn't be filming her again, and if he'd known she was a trained fighter, he wouldn't have hired her in the first place, as it wasn't fair to put untrained girls up against an opponent like that.

I don't remember where I read that, maybe here, maybe James' yahoo group.

[DoYouKnowWhoIAm?]

In the same way you wouldn't describe two women having a 100% competitive catfight on the street as an 'erotic performance', the same goes for the girls who fight for Catzreview. Though there are rules, it's still a 100% competitive catfight. That's why they are more accurately described as catfighters as opposed to erotic performers. I've never purchased a catfight video for the 'erotic performance', but I do purchase these videos to see a catfight.

Girls fighting on the street are not doing it with the purpose of turning people on and selling videos, so that's a bad analogy.

Girls fighting on the street don't strip down to tiny thongs before they get stuck in, then proceed to rip their opponent's thong off, grab her breasts and tweak her nipples.

The Catz girls strip down and use those tactics to try and win because a Catzrevue fight is both a real catfight and an erotic performance. You can't separate those 2 aspects of the fetish when you talk about unscripted fights, and I don't understand why you are so fixated on trying to do that.

Actually it's a perfectly valid analogy that demonstrates your error in judgement. That's why you think it's a 'bad analogy', not because it is bad, but because you disagree with how it highlights your error in definition. You are incorrect, but I wouldn't ever expect you to admit this due your emotional agenda and bias. For someone like you, winning an argument is more important than being reasonable and fair, it's what you are well known for according to what many people who have contacted me in the last week have told me. I just have to accept that you have very poor judgement when it comes to catfights, as your somewhat laughable comments and analysis on the new Suitefights Brooke vs. Charlie catfight release demonstrated to everyone. A video that is already receiving very high praise from all sectors of the catfight community, and inevitably will become a classic, regardless of what you erroneously think of it without even having actually seen the video yet. I'm perfectly fine with you calling them 'erotic performers' if you wish, my point is that 'catfighters' is a far more accurately descriptive term that refers to what they actually do, i.e. catfight, as opposed to erotically perform. That's why the company is called 'Catzreview' as opposed to 'Eroticreview'. Thanks

Don't you think Suitefights are getting enough attention in their own threads, without you bringing them up here? Seems I upset a few people by giving that producer what he himself was asking for - an honest opinion on what he was proposing to do with his latest release. Maybe I should have waited until the arse licking frenzy had died down before I did that.

[TheWatchman504]

I never liked wedgies and nipple twisting/clawing. In my opinion all of the best fights at Catz R happened before doing those things became popular.  examples G- Star vs Hot Rocker (both fights) Toony vs Rocket, Rocket vs Leo, Super Vixen vs Jinx, Super Vixen vs G-star, and theres more I could name these were all some of the best fights I ever seen and they didn't involve the ladies using each others thongs as weapons or clawing into each others nipples.

[DoYouKnowWhoIAm?]

The female mammary glands are delicate organs and a womans breasts are not protected by a sheath of muscle, like a man's "breasts". Injuries to the mammary gland are a serious issue and can have long lasting repurcussions.

This is why female boxers and MMA fighters, unlike their male counterparts, are allowed to wear breast protectors, of a similar construction to the cups male fighters wear to protect their genitals, when they fight.

A catfight producer like James has a duty of care towards his performers and he has to take that duty seriously.

In both males and females, the nipples are an erogenous zone and have more nerve endings than other parts of the body, making them more sensitive.

A womans nipples are larger and have more nerve endings than a man's. If it hurts like hell for a man to have his nipples tweaked - which it does - how much more painful must it be when a woman has that done to her?

We want to see rough, real fights. But we don't want the experience of taking part in them to be so painful and distressing for the ladies concerned that they don't want to come back and fight again.

This is almost too laughable to comment.....and its all been said before.....cannot understand why someone on this forum about catfighting insists on using the arguement that 2 large breasted women engaged in an arranged catfight would NOT want to attack her opponents breasts....hell they are the biggest targets available....

Newsflash   Women who take part in catfights do not WANT to attack each others breasts. They do it because catfight producers pay them extra to do it and for agreeing to have it done to them.

I'm astonished you didn't figure that out for yourself. Check out the thousands of real street catfights uploaded on Youtube. You will be lucky if you see breast attacks and nipple tweaks being used used even once in thousand real life catfights.

and this is a fight....not a sewing circle.....we could spend all day debating various parts of a womans anatomy that could be bruised up in a catfight....and if we were to start lining out all the spots on a womans body that could get seriously hurt in a catfight....we would end up agreeing that the fighters must first be covered in bubble wrap before they enter the ring to fight....frankly I believe the risk to knee or neck is far greater than a few bruises on a breast....and here is a news flash for Dr. Kafkod....a womans breast is the one anotomical feature of a woman designed to take a pounding ...

Yeah right. And women liked being slapped around too yeah? So why don't Catzrevue have face slaps in their fights? And thinking about it, why don't they have face punching? And kicking? And scratching and eye gouging? I mean, like you say, this is a fight, not a sewing circle. GTFOH with that shit.

and if you dont believe me.....ask any nursing mother what it feels like to have a teething baby locked onto her titty.....for weeks on end.....makes a lift by the boobs pale in comparrison.....

You think breast feeding is more painful to a woman more than being lifted off the ground by her tits?

Jeez mate, I'd hate to be your missus.

if anything....I believe that there was some concern that a relative new commer to this catfighting world got put up against possibly the toughest fighter in the CATZR stable.....and the producer only realized it once the fight had started.....and there was concern about a serious injury......but it was not going to happen as a result of 30 seconds worth of titty pulling.....so lets just agree that this whole medical arguement is a lot of bull comming forward simply to try and justify a very weak arguement.....for me....breast squeezing and hair pulling is what defines a catfight.....so let it happen.....just make sure both fighters arevup for the rules.....

I've seen the fight now, and I think I have a good idea of what was going on there. Pandora's nipples took a lot of punishment in the first round.

I think she probably told James that tweaking nipples was one thing ... pinching and nipping them was something else, and maybe asked him not to allow KS to do that to her again. Tweaking vs nipping is a fine distinction, but they are different.

And if you pay attention, the female shouting off camera wasn't telling KS to leave Pandora's tits alone, she was telling her not to pinch or nip them.

I actually found it quite a turn on hearing a woman shouting "Nipple tweaks! Nipple tweaks!" while KS was going to work!

[DoYouKnowWhoIAm?]

I never liked wedgies and nipple twisting/clawing. In my opinion all of the best fights at Catz R happened before doing those things became popular.  examples G- Star vs Hot Rocker (both fights) Toony vs Rocket, Rocket vs Leo, Super Vixen vs Jinx, Super Vixen vs G-star, and theres more I could name these were all some of the best fights I ever seen and they didn't involve the ladies using each others thongs as weapons or clawing into each others nipples.

I like nipple tweaks, when used to try and force a submission by a girl in a dominant position, but breast clawing turns me off too.

I really don't like "wedgie" submissions either. They look unnatural and just so awkward and uncomfortable, not sexy at all. I also don't like the outcome of a catfight to be determined by which girl is wearing the most durable knickers.

Catzreview had a run of fights with wedgie submission endings, and I was glad when the girls brought that run to an end by wearing the flimsiest underwear they could find when they fought.

[DoYouKnowWhoIAm?]

I watched this and I absolutely love it! It's one of the best ever from Catzrevue, imo.

I read a post here by somebody a while back, saying that one difference between male and female fights is that males fight against each other, while females fight with each other. A subtle difference, but true.

The chemistry between KS and Pandora is what made this a good fight for me. I also love the way Pandora looks when she is wrestling on the ground ... flipping, twisting and always trying to use her legs as much as she can.

The submission at the end was fantastic. One girl was too exhausted to fight any more, but it looked like she was just taking a breather when she lay still for a moment. And when the other asked her if she wanted to submit, I though that was a little hopeful.  But the "I submit" reply was instant, as if they were reading each others minds.

After giving up, the loser rolls onto her back and lies there right in front of the camera, looking crushed, beaten, and stunned by what had happened, with the smug, satisfied winner kneeling beside her.

Now that's the way a good, tough catfight should end! No doubt at all about who won and who lost this one.

I've really enjoyed Pandora's first two fights. If you can do rematches of both, James, that would be awesome.

[CATZREVIEW]

That was fantastic. Very hard close match with two sexy girls with muscle. Love Killers strong physique

Well you guys really do seem to love this catfight. :-)

I would just like to address 1 or 2 points: This was actually Pandora’s 1st ever catfight. I had given ex-middleweight champion Kat the job of preparing Pandora for this fight against Killer Sex. It was Kat you could hear in the background. She did interfere verbally a little too much for my liking. That being said, I have had ladies in the past refereeing catfights where they have actually said nothing when danger is round the corner, so at the time I was not going to criticise Kat for actually saying something.

My personal opinion was that Kat just ramped up the tension; and besides, the lady in pain actually told Kat she was fine, “it just hurts.” And basically shut Kat up.

One of my blog headlines refers to creating a catfight as “like baking a cake.” It can be found on my Catfighting UK blog. 

I have read what everyone has been saying about this fight being so good, so my question has to be: is this catfight (Pandora vs Killer Sex) better than Chantelle Fox vs Toony???