[colt 45]

sorry I can't help you, surprised someone on hear doesn't know.  Try asking Gotjack or JT Edson.

[lover.catfight]

Try Fighting Wildcats -- Marie vs. Jen

https://www.clips4sale.com/studio/33405/fighting-wildcats-hd-videos/Cat0-AllCategories/Page2/ClipSize-asc/Limit10/search/FEMALE+WRESTLING

It'd have been very unlikely.  It's not speculation, but a fact, that the video, from which the clip is from, was made with a camcorder transferred to a VHS tape. While camcorders are hardly in use anymore, VHS is only used by those, whose legal obligation requires that their footage cannot be altered, like casinos and banks. Small time producers, but even bigger ones in the porn industry have long switched to digital as scenes can be recorded again without losing the film or degradation. Whoever produced this, it was done decades ago and I don't think Fighting Wildcats was around back then (also they use digital). There's a snowball's chance in Hell it is a contemporary movie which for some reason was "retrofitted" for VHS, but that alone would cost more than just simply shooting it with today's technology.

Thanks for the post. I'm afraid you are right. It looks like coming  from an old VHS tape. I also tried searching in Rockin-Roxanne site, but no luck either. 

I do love a good mystery and that's my focus here, the reward being the solution. I did not mention tattoos, for two obvious reasons: one, the single two databases I know that lists such people are both law enforcement ones, obviously not open to the public. Plus, speaking of the last century, the ink then had more liberal oversight on heavy metal content, so it could have been removed (but that's assuming she cared for it). What was widely known that following the HIV/AIDS scare, parlors were eyed for any Hep B infection risk. That being said, it doesn't bring us closer. It would if the tattoos were pre-internet custom made ones, but, again, a grainy low-level clip isn't definitive to determine that.

Neither was the place itself a big help. The fact they curtained it up does let us conclude it's either residential or in a dual purpose zone. It also couldn't be a high traffic area as camcorders back then, especially ones with external microphones couldn't really cancel out loud noises. Thus it was either a quiet neighborhood, or they didn't want the night watch to ogle in. My grief is however that all this only makes a testament to how things were then. I offered the 1985-1995 timeframe as a start. The company who made it could have been small then, and went out of business, or the opposite, it grew big and later videos were on a soundstage. The latter, of course, would require permits which have been filed, thus making it public record, but, again, it's useless without knowing the country and/or state. Others who did collect videos in discreet packaging and shipping could attest that back then, London and Hamburg were large retailing centers for such businesses. Thus, my guess was it's American made. Okay, now I slapped myself on the head figuratively. If any of us had seen an electrical outlet, that'd a great deal as those are vastly different in the UK, continental Europe, and America. What I did recognize instead is that we can discard Florida unless it's a state despite being subtropical, would have a need for a radiator.

My educated guess is that the radiator is longer than one used in a living room/bedroom, in which case it would make sense if it's a classroom, or it was one. A season can't be determined, only that the windows aren't open, but there can be cold summer days. If I'd be on the hunt, I'd ask the producers here if they know the clip. It just as well can be that a nonprofessional group made this video or a string of videos. It cannot be determined if it was made for profit, it could be whoever put it up online first started to copy it and sell it, and it was meant to be a home video (that however would explain the unwillingness to come forward, if it truly was filmed by way of misuse of public/private property or through BNE, no wonder, despite way past statute of limitations, it still would look bad).

Thank you for  your deep analysis. I'm still afraid you are totally right: It looks bad, but  Hope is the last to die.  Thanks again for your posts. If you know  or guess anything else, please do not hesitate to post it here.

The search continues...

[lover.catfight]

sorry I can't help you, surprised someone on hear doesn't know.  Try asking Gotjack or JT Edson.

Thank you. .I will contact them.

[catfightlover40]

As I didn't wish to make my reply look like a thread from an old listserv board, I reply separately instead. My hope is, that it was made for profit, and wasn't a home video. There's a decent movie with Luke Wilson from the last decade on how internet porn got off the ground (ironically financed by a guy who was later suspected of embezzling the funds needed to make that movie and another one) and of course, there have been some outsiders who tried to cash in on that by way of selling things that weren't originally meant to be sold (imagine if they had known if they do like Terry Hogan and sue the outlet publishing it, making him probably the only guy richer while committing adultery... that reminds me, Stormy Daniels got busted on some bogus charges).

Anyhow, I've seen the clip at least half a dozen times. If there's more to be deduced I'm happy to share, but I have to disclose, I have a strong code of ethics. It's the mystery that interests me, but only if it's not private. I too hope it's not a home video, I don't like being up in other's businesses. As most of us don't have eternal memory, my second suggestion would be, that if those who have submitted this clip before, could remember at least where they posted it, the Wayback Machine could be used to reread those posts again. There have been cases in the past, especially with those of missing persons where independent factoids led to new findings. Without a further rewatch, some things are relatively common knowledge. Most companies are small and draw on a pool of local talent, which means shooting locations are within a state. If it's residential zoning, it must have been or was highly likely a mostly Caucasian suburb. The benefit of America is that there's a massive population number division between cities and suburbs, with the latter usually having an under 100 thousand township and 2 or 3 high schools.

But this latter would be based on the recording being done in a school. It was night, it could have been abandoned. The biggest obstacle is that neither woman's faces are visible, that may be the only thing which was done on puirpose.