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The Future of Online Wrestling and Catfight Videos?

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Offline Colt45

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The Future of Online Wrestling and Catfight Videos?
« on: February 10, 2021, 09:44:03 PM »
So essentially I was listening to a podcast (Andrew Schulz’s Flagrant 2) and they were discussing the porn industry and the rise of onlyfans. With the way everyone takes in content now, especially porn, the industry is pretty much entirely mobile. Now because of that we’ve seen artists be able to create content more independently then ever. Everyone from film makers to musicians and recently, much to the credit of onlyfans and platforms like it, porn actors and actresses.

So it made me think, if you’re a fetish actress (and for the sake of this forum specifically a wrestling/catfighting fetish actress) why shoot videos for a fetish studio when you can create your own content? The most important factor being you actually get to keep the entirety of your videos profits instead of a one time payment or a tiny percentage. I don’t know how much exactly these fetish actors get for being in a video but percentage wise I can’t imagine it’s very much.

With the meteoric rise of podcasts, comedic personalities can create their own content without having any restrictions or taking a percentage of their programs profits like they would working for a radio program or any other form of entertainment that’s owned by a media company. Sites like onlyfans can give these fetish actresses that we enjoy the same opportunity. The ability to shoot whatever they like and most importantly keep their profits. With all do respect to sites like kink and fight pulse, this seems like with the right marketing and investment a far more profitable avenue for the women. Even if the videos don’t sell as much independently as they would with an established company, seeing all the profits of every video sold as opposed to a tiny percentage or one time payment would more then make up for that. I remember hearing a band say it’s better to sell 20,000 records and own your masters then sell 2,000,000 records and not own them.

As long as someone is willing to invest in their own brand and work to grow their content this could be far more beneficial then shooting videos for producers who are going to keep the lions share of your work. Joe Rogan has said many times that instead of competing with other comedians podcasts they all appear on each other’s shows to help grow each other’s brands. The same could be applied here. Yes you need a partner to create a wrestling/catfight video,, why not simply agree to appear on each other’s pages and videos to help each other grow your following. The main point being this seems like a great opportunity for all the women we love to watch create content and make the money they should earn as opposed to losing most of the profits to producers who really only build a space and setup a camera. Something these girls are entirely capable of doing on their own.

This is just a thought I had and wanted to put out their. Hopefully some women are already doing this. I know some popular fetish actresses have their own websites and videos but this is a way for newer or unknown women to be able to do it themselves as well. I’d love to hear if anyone has any comments or thoughts to add to this.

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Offline sinclairfan

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Re: The Future of Online Wrestling and Catfight Videos?
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2021, 01:25:02 AM »
I know some popular fetish actresses have their own websites and videos but this is a way for newer or unknown women to be able to do it themselves as well. I’d love to hear if anyone has any comments or thoughts to add to this.

Paige VanZant is the future.  6-7 in talent, 8-9 in toughness, 10 in looks.  And blonde, blonde, blonde.

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Re: The Future of Online Wrestling and Catfight Videos?
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2021, 04:17:21 AM »
Paige VanZant is the future.  6-7 in talent, 8-9 in toughness, 10 in looks.  And blonde, blonde, blonde.

Lol........ what?

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Re: The Future of Online Wrestling and Catfight Videos?
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2021, 09:50:49 AM »
So essentially I was listening to a podcast (Andrew Schulz’s Flagrant 2) and they were discussing the porn industry and the rise of onlyfans. With the way everyone takes in content now, especially porn, the industry is pretty much entirely mobile. Now because of that we’ve seen artists be able to create content more independently then ever. Everyone from film makers to musicians and recently, much to the credit of onlyfans and platforms like it, porn actors and actresses.

So it made me think, if you’re a fetish actress (and for the sake of this forum specifically a wrestling/catfighting fetish actress) why shoot videos for a fetish studio when you can create your own content? The most important factor being you actually get to keep the entirety of your videos profits instead of a one time payment or a tiny percentage. I don’t know how much exactly these fetish actors get for being in a video but percentage wise I can’t imagine it’s very much.

With the meteoric rise of podcasts, comedic personalities can create their own content without having any restrictions or taking a percentage of their programs profits like they would working for a radio program or any other form of entertainment that’s owned by a media company. Sites like onlyfans can give these fetish actresses that we enjoy the same opportunity. The ability to shoot whatever they like and most importantly keep their profits. With all do respect to sites like kink and fight pulse, this seems like with the right marketing and investment a far more profitable avenue for the women. Even if the videos don’t sell as much independently as they would with an established company, seeing all the profits of every video sold as opposed to a tiny percentage or one time payment would more then make up for that. I remember hearing a band say it’s better to sell 20,000 records and own your masters then sell 2,000,000 records and not own them.

As long as someone is willing to invest in their own brand and work to grow their content this could be far more beneficial then shooting videos for producers who are going to keep the lions share of your work. Joe Rogan has said many times that instead of competing with other comedians podcasts they all appear on each other’s shows to help grow each other’s brands. The same could be applied here. Yes you need a partner to create a wrestling/catfight video,, why not simply agree to appear on each other’s pages and videos to help each other grow your following. The main point being this seems like a great opportunity for all the women we love to watch create content and make the money they should earn as opposed to losing most of the profits to producers who really only build a space and setup a camera. Something these girls are entirely capable of doing on their own.

This is just a thought I had and wanted to put out their. Hopefully some women are already doing this. I know some popular fetish actresses have their own websites and videos but this is a way for newer or unknown women to be able to do it themselves as well. I’d love to hear if anyone has any comments or thoughts to add to this.

A truly independent approach where by two models come actresses agree a 50/50 split on the money earned after the payments are made to the people operating the camera, sound equipment and post production facilities are factored in.

Sadly the issue is going to be promotion because the net is a large place and a specialist market requires the appropriate platform to sell from as we all know that a certain website has a very large lock on the direct sales market and which has no compunction about the sale of pirated and re uploaded material as long as they get their percentage of the sale price.

I like the idea as the podcast suggests of the localised approach where by people can produce directly, but I also see how the quality of the product can be reduced which can be a big determining factor in setting price after all a good quality well shot and well produced video will always be worth more money than one shot on a shaky and relatively low resolution approach.

It also as an approach does not take into account the devastating effect of video piracy where by two models may produce several video's all of which while not best sellers provide a steady income, only to have them pirated and thus have no income.

That is where a production house approach to filimng is more certain as the models in the production have been paid their small one time appearance fee and the financial loss is down to the production house which has a marginally better position, due in part to the large amount of material it may have placed on the market.

We have all heard that various video producers have bemoaned the effect of piracy upon their income and thus are imperilling the production of video material in the future and the realistic and only way to prevent that is to use the approach that Napali did in the early days of streaming which was of rental only with no option to purchase.



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Re: The Future of Online Wrestling and Catfight Videos?
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2021, 03:55:53 PM »
   The best site currently is clips4sale, fighters like Antscha and Mutiny have started to shoot their own videos and book out their mats to other models for sessions. Onlyfans is a good place for Catfighters and Wrestlers to make extra money, but not good to start off with. I personally would not join a onlyfans page if have not already seen the model in action on video from another site.
   Most sites now are depended on custom video orders. If you really want to see a match-up then booking a custom video is the way to go, if wait for a producer to shoot it, then might never get filmed in todays world.
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Re: The Future of Online Wrestling and Catfight Videos?
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2021, 10:27:44 PM »
I think we're seeing the beginning of the future now. While some studios still exist and make new content, you're seeing more model based productions already. Look on Twitter and there's Lyric, Valor, Gia Love, Tilly, and some others. It's a shame, because studios allowed for more output and consistency. You could have a video every week (or more) and know 'these are the rules, this is what I can expect.' However, we now have a few matches every few months and you never know the quality and sadly, there is no way to browse them since they're usually sold by twitter. We also seem to have videos disappearing and I think you'll see that more in the future.

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Re: The Future of Online Wrestling and Catfight Videos?
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2021, 12:58:22 AM »
hopefully virtual reality :)

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Offline AaronL

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Re: The Future of Online Wrestling and Catfight Videos?
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2021, 02:16:07 AM »
We're not seeing anything.

If individual content creators were really making that much of a dent then Netflix, Disney+, etc would be dying. We might see changes in distribution and other elements of the development model, but ultimately there will still be someone in charge who give the talent a place to become known before they try to branch out on their own.

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Re: The Future of Online Wrestling and Catfight Videos?
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2021, 03:52:26 AM »
We're not seeing anything.

If individual content creators were really making that much of a dent then Netflix, Disney+, etc would be dying. We might see changes in distribution and other elements of the development model, but ultimately there will still be someone in charge who give the talent a place to become known before they try to branch out on their own.

Big difference between someone who gets a camera, some mats, a friend, and has other models over to wrestle/catfight for video and a tv show/production. With sponsorships, it really is a matter of just finding a space, the girls to do it, and someone to video it and put it out. There are a few companies that still put out, but not a lot compared to what we used to have in the 90s-early 00s.

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Re: The Future of Online Wrestling and Catfight Videos?
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2021, 05:12:13 AM »
The cost to produce content used to be prohibitive.  Now, one can buy an affordable 4K camera at BestBuy.  That kind of technology used to cost thousands and would only be available at pro camera suppliers.  But the question is, with the state of content piracy, will anyone be able to create content, protect it and make a living from selling access to it?

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Re: The Future of Online Wrestling and Catfight Videos?
« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2021, 03:06:05 AM »

There’s also a technology development...Watching a catfight recorded with a 360 degree camera puts the viewer in the room and up close to the girls.

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Re: The Future of Online Wrestling and Catfight Videos?
« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2021, 08:40:34 PM »
I think with the current iterations of independent producers you can see develop session girls who actively trash talk one another on Twitter.  I’m sure there’s new tech that’ll change how we view, or what you can see,  but really I’m hoping for catfighting session girls to begin challenging other opponents from across the world. 

Imagine seeing Gia Primo in 2004 vs Antonia in 2004. Imagine having girls trash talk across the globe to settle differences.  Really I’m hoping for a Japanese woman who’s 140-160 to challenge some American producers.  That’s what I want more of;  I remember when Paris said to Alexa after beating her “ya you talkin’ all that shit online”. That’s what I want more of and that’s what I hope we see. 

The matches of the late 80s-early millennium are great but the lack of women shit talking to one another and actually being pissed at the other was lacking severely. Now with the internet they can literally just trash talk and then wrestle.  It’s awesome.

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Re: The Future of Online Wrestling and Catfight Videos?
« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2021, 05:55:22 PM »
I don't see much of a future in this fetish.

Why would you catfight when you can show your butt and earn more for less effort?

Evolved fights are pretty good but no ultimate surrender. Onlyfans is good for those who have a fan base to sell exclusive personalized content. Easier to get a butt shot and sell it to your fans than a fight where you might get scratched.

Lisa Ann also did an interview on why she hated doing live shows. Fans now feel like they own you rather than, you know, be a fan and admire. They will not be satisfied and treat your more like a product rather than a person.