Understanding why we like catfights

[npom]

the foundation of many sexual interests and fetishes can often be traced back to formative experiences or exposures. these do not necessarily have to be inherently sexual but can evolve into a sexualized interest over time....there is also the role of power dynamics in sexual arousal and fetish development... the fascination of female competition stems from the intrinsic human interest in social hierarchies and the demonstration of physical or psychological prowess. apart from that the concept of taboo also plays a significant role. what is deemed forbidden or outside societal norms acquires an increased allure. the deviation from mainstream sexual interest adds a layer of excitement and uniqueness...

This is spot on. I believe experiences in our formative years absolutely have an effect on our sexual fantasies. I was about 10 or 11 and saw my friend's mom playfully wrestle with one of her friends. It was the first time I could remember being turned on. That was 50 years ago and this fetish has never been stronger for me.

[watchembox]

I think born with it also. I can remember my first masturbation session was when two neighborhood girls starting wrestling in one of their yards. I was hooked and imagined everybody from then on. Two teachers, co-workers and wives and exe's.

[Ais4life]

Love everything about female fights. Staged fantasy fights are great, imagined scenarios,  with women of all shapes and sizes in erotic matches, or in a real catfight or an evenly matched fist fight is just wild to.me!! Warching athletic women who train and prepare to particpate in a kickboxing, or mma, or ufc or grappling match is intense and exciting ! Following fighters online amd watching them train and  build their physical amd mental prep for a fight is inspiring. Fantasising about my wife in fights with some of my female co workers is great and her acceptance of my fetish  although she doesnt particpate in it is terrific. The only thing I detest is bullying and assaults on the weak.

Two women willing to go at each other in competition or to settle things in the streets is wildly appealing to me.

[Ctfghtfan100]

My catfight fetish origin
I have always been curious about how people get interested in catfighting and female combat as a fetish. In the spirit of that I thought I'd share my own origin story.

My Catfighting fetish is an integral part of who I am as a kinkster. It has been a lifelong thrill for me. My fetish is particular - I don't care for street fights or bar room brawls really. I like women's MMA and other combat sports but those are not really tied to my fetish either.

My preferences are catfights and catty wrestling wherein two women agree to meet and face each other to fight under a certain set of rules and test each other in strength, skill, endurance and pain threshold. Hey - It's a fight and it's likely to hurt! On the note of rules, I am a fan of whatever the women agree to as long as it's competitive and to be honest as rough as they agree to. So there's a broad range of what I like in terms of fighting tactics as long as it's not staged or scripted.

As to how this all started for me, I was 10 or 11 years old! Yup. That young! My older cousin knew where his older brothers hid their porn magazines stash. We were hanging out at the house and no one was around. He pulled these out and my very first exposure to porn was Cavalier mag and the very first images were of women in catfights - from
The very beginning catfighting and women fighting were linked to sexuality and I was hooked. The hair was huge as were the fake tits! But images of naked women pulling hair, slapping, and even some clawing and biting and punching amidst faked wrestling holds and moves sent an electric shock through me like lightning and I was hooked. There were other mags with boxing, ring wrestling, mud and oil wrestling but it was the catfight imagery that held my attention and that I got this electrifying response from. I was 11 and I was hooked!

Ever since I have sought out female fight content and in particular catfight content. In that same time frame, mud and oil wrestling was popular in movies and TV. I watched women's wrestling whenever I could. It was in that era that Sports Review Wrestling mag was publishing apartment wrestling pictorials and stories. The stories were terrible but Theoret's photographs of girls fighting in bikinis were very inspiring and very sexy to me. I picked up as many as I could and enjoyed them all. They evolved into battling girls mags that depicted nude wrestling and catfighting. It was wildly exciting at the time.

Throughout my life I have enjoyed my fetish and am grateful to the catfight producers and the women who agree to compete in catfighting. The internet really opened up access and to this day I love watching catfights, chatting w fans and fighters and building a bit of a community.
That continues to this day. And I hope to meet more fans and fighters in the years to come.

[Hairpullfan]

Thanks for sharing. I love origin stories and surprised how 90% of us started so young!

[daz]

I don't know how true this is for everyone but some people are more receptive to physical actions and others are more effected by emotions.  In my case I think I get more enjoyment from the emotional aspects of a female fight, to a certain extent, I think this might be why I prefer scripted matches, for me a scripted fight, even if there is no storyline etc is safer to enjoy.  I can use my imagination to heighten the enjoyment, whilst at the same time knowing at the back of my mind that hopefully the ladies involved are not going to suffer serious injury.  It also means that the memory of a matchup can be better than when I first witnessed it.

[mister4562004]

I guess that this topic really suits older fans who still marvel at how much girl fights turned them on when they were youngsters, barely at puberty, and still carries that same sexual power today as it did all those years ago. I am personally still amazed, in my mid-sixties, at how I become so sexually charged when I go through my personal collection of fighting-girls material, mainly photos, some art and some videos. I remember when I made my first purchase of photosets and magazines from Triumph Studios, the unquestioned leader in the genre back in the late seventies, early eighties, and the excitement it brought me.
I have always kept my girl-fight fetish hidden. It's not easy to have such an important component of your sexuality remain a complete secret. I guess I've always known that I wasn't alone as there would never have been a Triumph Studios, or California Supreme if there was no market for it. However, the question for me was how many guys are into it as a side-fetish, and how many, like me, clearly define watching girl fights as the absolute number one source of sexual gratification. I could never have known back in the sixties and seventies, that being instantly turned on by fighting gals as a kid while watching movies and TV shows would still have the same effect on me over half a century later. But it does. I have evolved in my preferences, but the same core turn-on is still there. For me, the victory-defeat aspect in female fights is an important component to the turn-on. I used to hate photosets or videos that did not have a winner, and my favorite shots in any girl fight series of photos are the victory poses. All these years later, I can still look at some of those old Triumph photos of Hanna Vick in a victory pose, proud winner with her arms in the air standing over her defeated opponent with her foot on the loser's chest and still feel that old blood rush, like I did as a teenager.

[Dario]

Totally agree, the Victory-Defeat aspect is veri exciting por me too, the most importante thing in a girl fight.
I love fight with a clear winner and a clear loser after the fight. No draws or stopped brawls.

[catfightlover40]

Personally, I don't know if a sexual psychologist would be even willing to take me up. The attraction started well before I was interested in anything sexual. One day I came back from a visit to the countryside and ever since I had fantasized of various women fighting. Regrettably, it wasn't until I matured into adulthood that I respected boundaries.

History of abuse played a part for me, and while my father wasn't per se absent, he was also a self-serving self centered alcoholic, so my mother was my role model until my first steady girlfriend who fortunately was receptive to my kink. My catfights are often part revenge fantasies exploring what should have happened. I do somewhat blame my grandfather for forcing my mother to abandon her tomboyish persona because of expected gender roles, despite her being the closest in personality to him, wearing her heart on her sleeve, and not afraid of fighting for the underdog.

About evolution, I'd point out the nuance that many early writings are antagonistic to women for having a mind of their own and gasp daring to love who they love. After leaving the caves and setting up tribes, many cultures opted for a wise elder who came up with a system on whom women had to marry to keep land and/or riches. So to a point I understand women going after their base impulses and lust after well trained and well muscled men. Dare I say part of it is because of those men being physically able to service the athleticism of women and be willing to do more positions.

As my old man was self-serving and learned to manipulate others from his mother, he found the desires of my mother wanting to leave the family home where her mother wanted to keep her. Think more like Gaston, and a lot less like Prince Chamling. Granted, he didn't lie about being well read or being an excellent dancer (damn that's the only I envy of him) but he lied about his vices and by the time he came clean; I was already born. Part of the fights I write is my mother against women who fell for my father's charms and blamed her instead.

I heavily agree with sinclairfan, I aim for cathartic moments where my heroines discover shit. Why haven't I had done this sooner? I like that Tina Fey was candidly honest in Mean Girls on how the analogy with a queen bee works since once an invading queen takes over the hive, the other women refocus their whisper network, supposed to protect all women in the group/clique is being retooled to only protect the queen..

[BettyBoop]

This is all fine and well, and I hope you all are getting off safe without actually hurting other people, but here's the deal. You probably are hurting other people whether you acknowledge it or not. There is a reason you keep this world hidden. There is a reason it is unacceptable in society and that is because the views you have about women and what you make them do in your fantasy minds eye Would never be acceptable to them if they knew. That is why you hide it  Think about that for a moment when you think that you are profess your love for someone, but you have an entire world hidden that you have never told them about that. Taste everything you do with women that makes it impossible for you to maintain or even achieve an erection in a ""normal sexual situation."
Furthermore, writing about violence, actual violence against women, as is down on this site is a template and a blueprint for people who lack the imagination themselves. No, I am not saying you cause people to be violent. What I am saying is that you by celebrating this violence normalize it and make it OK in the mind of others. I also believe that some of you are dangerous to women and children based on your writings. The fact that some of you cannot seem to separate children out of your fantasies, even though this site, explicitly prohibits, it tells me that there is a compulsion that is notable or not being controlled.
My husband told me he writes these stories so that he doesn't harm women in real life. That is scary as fuck to me and I'm sorry, but I'm not sorry about any of your tragic childhood and abuse upbringings. If this is how you are choosing to channel your trauma and rage against women. 
I recognize this may not be most of you, but it is certainly many of you and certainly my husband Who is present on this thread.
He won't acknowledge that he has a problem, but I am telling the world he has a fucking problem and if you were on this site thinking you were innocent and not harming people. Well, you are just wrong. 
It is unbelievably disturbing to find files with your name and photos going back 30 years with images of the horrible things that your husband has has fantasized about happening to you and other women .
I did not have this. I did not ask for your world to be an existence, and I certainly did not ask to participate in it. But here we are. I also fully expect to be banned from this site soon, but that's OK because the security really sucks and it will continue to be monitored and reported as appropriate.
And an open note to my husband: If you believe that you are not doing anything wrong here, you should just admit it and own up to your kink. If you know that you have done something wrong, you need to make it right and if you can't make it right, you need professional help.
It is not OK to write and fantasize about trafficking real women and their children. Period. Full stop.

[clark85]

This is all fine and well, and I hope you all are getting off safe without actually hurting other people, but here's the deal. You probably are hurting other people whether you acknowledge it or not. There is a reason you keep this world hidden. There is a reason it is unacceptable in society and that is because the views you have about women and what you make them do in your fantasy minds eye Would never be acceptable to them if they knew. That is why you hide it  Think about that for a moment when you think that you are profess your love for someone, but you have an entire world hidden that you have never told them about that. Taste everything you do with women that makes it impossible for you to maintain or even achieve an erection in a ""normal sexual situation."
Furthermore, writing about violence, actual violence against women, as is down on this site is a template and a blueprint for people who lack the imagination themselves. No, I am not saying you cause people to be violent. What I am saying is that you by celebrating this violence normalize it and make it OK in the mind of others. I also believe that some of you are dangerous to women and children based on your writings. The fact that some of you cannot seem to separate children out of your fantasies, even though this site, explicitly prohibits, it tells me that there is a compulsion that is notable or not being controlled.
My husband told me he writes these stories so that he doesn't harm women in real life. That is scary as fuck to me and I'm sorry, but I'm not sorry about any of your tragic childhood and abuse upbringings. If this is how you are choosing to channel your trauma and rage against women. 
I recognize this may not be most of you, but it is certainly many of you and certainly my husband Who is present on this thread.
He won't acknowledge that he has a problem, but I am telling the world he has a fucking problem and if you were on this site thinking you were innocent and not harming people. Well, you are just wrong. 
It is unbelievably disturbing to find files with your name and photos going back 30 years with images of the horrible things that your husband has has fantasized about happening to you and other women .
I did not have this. I did not ask for your world to be an existence, and I certainly did not ask to participate in it. But here we are. I also fully expect to be banned from this site soon, but that's OK because the security really sucks and it will continue to be monitored and reported as appropriate.
And an open note to my husband: If you believe that you are not doing anything wrong here, you should just admit it and own up to your kink. If you know that you have done something wrong, you need to make it right and if you can't make it right, you need professional help.
It is not OK to write and fantasize about trafficking real women and their children. Period. Full stop.

uh generalizing everyone with some sort of trauma is just wrong.

[BettyBoop]

This is all fine and well, and I hope you all are getting off safe without actually hurting other people, but here's the deal. You probably are hurting other people whether you acknowledge it or not. There is a reason you keep this world hidden. There is a reason it is unacceptable in society and that is because the views you have about women and what you make them do in your fantasy minds eye Would never be acceptable to them if they knew. That is why you hide it  Think about that for a moment when you think that you are profess your love for someone, but you have an entire world hidden that you have never told them about that. Taste everything you do with women that makes it impossible for you to maintain or even achieve an erection in a ""normal sexual situation."
Furthermore, writing about violence, actual violence against women, as is down on this site is a template and a blueprint for people who lack the imagination themselves. No, I am not saying you cause people to be violent. What I am saying is that you by celebrating this violence normalize it and make it OK in the mind of others. I also believe that some of you are dangerous to women and children based on your writings. The fact that some of you cannot seem to separate children out of your fantasies, even though this site, explicitly prohibits, it tells me that there is a compulsion that is notable or not being controlled.
My husband told me he writes these stories so that he doesn't harm women in real life. That is scary as fuck to me and I'm sorry, but I'm not sorry about any of your tragic childhood and abuse upbringings. If this is how you are choosing to channel your trauma and rage against women. 
I recognize this may not be most of you, but it is certainly many of you and certainly my husband Who is present on this thread.
He won't acknowledge that he has a problem, but I am telling the world he has a fucking problem and if you were on this site thinking you were innocent and not harming people. Well, you are just wrong. 
It is unbelievably disturbing to find files with your name and photos going back 30 years with images of the horrible things that your husband has has fantasized about happening to you and other women .
I did not have this. I did not ask for your world to be an existence, and I certainly did not ask to participate in it. But here we are. I also fully expect to be banned from this site soon, but that's OK because the security really sucks and it will continue to be monitored and reported as appropriate.
And an open note to my husband: If you believe that you are not doing anything wrong here, you should just admit it and own up to your kink. If you know that you have done something wrong, you need to make it right and if you can't make it right, you need professional help.
It is not OK to write and fantasize about trafficking real women and their children. Period. Full stop.

uh generalizing everyone with some sort of trauma is just wrong.

I agree. I am referring to one person here. Glad it doesn't apply to you. But this site contributes to the global collection of misogyny, like Andrew Tate. My husband is sick. I hope you are not.

[daz]

Ok I dont get the past abuse argument, that is just sick, a female fight fetish should not be about taking revenge on anyone. And to the wife whos husband has posted pics of her without permission, your husband has serious problems, if he can not respect your wishes, you might want to consider your entire relationship.  But please do not tar everyone with the same brush.

[lumberjack66]

As somebody who has participated in a fair amount of "professional help" over this subject, just thought I'd step back in again on this subject in reply to BettyBoop.  Clearly you and your husband are in a moment of crises over this subject and I would suggest you seek counseling for both of you.  I have always found being able to talk about this to be very helpful.  But I have to warn you that you may be disappointed with the professionals judgements on this subject.  In general this kink trends toward the shallow end of the perversion pool.  Most psychological professionals have seen much worse than us and tend to not be alarmed by this kink.  Most won't even label it a fetish for most cases because it is considered so mainstream.  In my case, I saw a counselor who told me to embrace it and normalize it and it will go away (pretty sure he is wrong about that, but it was his advice), saw a sexual specialist who determined that I was in the normal range of sexual interest and was more interested in my wife's hidden traumas (and I have to say some of the people in her waiting room really scared the shit out of me), and counselor 3, a christian counselor, which is really hard to find put me in group counseling primarily so I could see I really wasn't the monster I thought I was (again a couple of those guys scared me too).  It does sound to me like your husband has crossed some lines.  Sharing your pictures.  Involving children or worse your children.  Fantasizing about "horrible things" happening to you.  Obviously we are all on a spectrum and I have no idea where he really is on that spectrum, what trauma's he is trying to resolve, or even who he is.  I can see where that would be very upsetting to you discovering a hidden aspect of your husband after all this time.  That being said there is a dramatic difference between fantasizing and doing.  We all have some darkness in our thoughts that we hide or control somehow.  You get mad at the driver that cut you off and momentarily entertain the fantasy of driving them off the road,  That doesn't make you crazy.  Actually driving them off the road would make you crazy.  Whatever coping mechanisms that allow you to not do that, even if they seem a little crazy in themselves probably are worthwhile to avoid the big crazy.  Perhaps your husband is right and this in some small way helps him cope?  The evidence that you have been with him for 30 years and he hasn't spent time in jail or a loony bin would suggest that it does.  That is not to say there isn't a better coping mechanism.  I also don't think confessing his kink to the world will help you or him.  My wife had me do that as well with similar results to the shrinks.  Nobody seemed that freaked out by it, nobody cut me out of their life, or brought it up ever again.  Just made me miserable with no benefit that I could see beyond my wife's need to humiliate me.  But talk to the counselors.  Both of you.

Also I hope they don't kick you out of the room.  I don't think your painting us all with a broad brush violates any of the rules here.  And I don't think it hurts any of us to hear what a "normal" person thinks about us, or calling us misogynists, implying that we are sick, or even comparing us to Andrew Tate (whoever that is).  This is the Internet... kind of the definition of "words can never hurt me."  You are clearly hurt and understandably lashing out.  Of course that is up to the people who own the room.  Wish you the best of luck.

[CoffeeMug]

This is all fine and well, and I hope you all are getting off safe without actually hurting other people, but here's the deal. You probably are hurting other people whether you acknowledge it or not. There is a reason you keep this world hidden. There is a reason it is unacceptable in society and that is because the views you have about women and what you make them do in your fantasy minds eye Would never be acceptable to them if they knew. That is why you hide it  Think about that for a moment when you think that you are profess your love for someone, but you have an entire world hidden that you have never told them about that. Taste everything you do with women that makes it impossible for you to maintain or even achieve an erection in a ""normal sexual situation."
Furthermore, writing about violence, actual violence against women, as is down on this site is a template and a blueprint for people who lack the imagination themselves. No, I am not saying you cause people to be violent. What I am saying is that you by celebrating this violence normalize it and make it OK in the mind of others. I also believe that some of you are dangerous to women and children based on your writings. The fact that some of you cannot seem to separate children out of your fantasies, even though this site, explicitly prohibits, it tells me that there is a compulsion that is notable or not being controlled.
My husband told me he writes these stories so that he doesn't harm women in real life. That is scary as fuck to me and I'm sorry, but I'm not sorry about any of your tragic childhood and abuse upbringings. If this is how you are choosing to channel your trauma and rage against women. 
I recognize this may not be most of you, but it is certainly many of you and certainly my husband Who is present on this thread.
He won't acknowledge that he has a problem, but I am telling the world he has a fucking problem and if you were on this site thinking you were innocent and not harming people. Well, you are just wrong. 
It is unbelievably disturbing to find files with your name and photos going back 30 years with images of the horrible things that your husband has has fantasized about happening to you and other women .
I did not have this. I did not ask for your world to be an existence, and I certainly did not ask to participate in it. But here we are. I also fully expect to be banned from this site soon, but that's OK because the security really sucks and it will continue to be monitored and reported as appropriate.
And an open note to my husband: If you believe that you are not doing anything wrong here, you should just admit it and own up to your kink. If you know that you have done something wrong, you need to make it right and if you can't make it right, you need professional help.
It is not OK to write and fantasize about trafficking real women and their children. Period. Full stop.

Please specify the content on this site that glorifies violence against children or trafficking children.

As for the rest, I'll just say this. The first time I remember becoming aroused by this material was when I saw a mud wrestling match on a crappy TV series. I've checked the air date for the episode, and I was 5 at the time. And I recall distinctly anticipating the buildup to the match and hoping it would happen, which suggests to me that this is something that's been 'down in me' from the start. So, no, I don't think that my acting on this fetish, which has been the way I experience sexual desire my whole life, in a way that doesn't harm anyone in the real world makes me "like Andrew Tate" or a child trafficker. People who traffic children, sexually harass women, rape, etc. are the people who are responsible for those things. I'm not "probably hurting other people" just by being alive.

Edit: I also remember watching the Wonder Woman TV series and hoping there would be a fight scene, and that went off the air before I turned 4.

[CoffeeMug]