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Morality of using the pictures of celebrities in stories and polls.

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Offline Bry-

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What do you think about using the pictures of well-known celebrities/models/actresses in the stories? On one hand, these celebrities are public figures and sexualize themselves and are aware that people would use their likeness in fantasies, which is something that's been going on for probably centuries and has become very common in fan-fictions. On the other hand, most of them have probably never heard of catfighting fetish, and if they knew, they might not have released photos of themselves. I find the use of pictures to significantly increase the impact of the stories. I just want to make sure that I'm not doing something morally wrong.

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Offline Kino

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Re: Morality of using the pictures of celebrities in stories and polls.
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2024, 05:55:55 AM »
I am curious as well how the community views this.

 i have my own concern with image generation tools, the few i have interacted with have definitely using a reference image of some celebrities.

i noticed this especially in DevineArts, there are a bunch of image generated boxing posts and many of the south asian ones look very similar to popular and famous actresses in south asia.

Personally i am trying to find an image generator that doesn't do this (which is basically impossible right now) so i can upload images to stories i am working on. I don't want to upload images that use someone's else's "likeness", especially when i do not have permission.

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Offline Kiva

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Re: Morality of using the pictures of celebrities in stories and polls.
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2024, 10:52:44 AM »
I'll give it a try. I am not an attorney. This is not legal advice. I have published nonfiction material which used copyrighted photos. I was absolutely required to obtain written permission from the copyright holder, which was granted, but under the condition that I acknowledge him in the caption. Print publishing and posting pictures on the internet, including social media, are handled the same way under copyright law. There are exceptions under Fair Use (reporting news, documentaries, critiques, commentaries, parody, etc.) that don't apply to your question.

Posting copyrighted images on the web is illegal without permission of the copyright holder. You can be certain that pics of celebrities are copyrighted, usually to a photographer, agency or publicist. Use of the photo without permission is considered copyright infringement. This also applies to any image that was altered via photo editing or AI. Also, celebrities have a right to their identity, image and likeness, even if they don't own the copyright. Even stories about celebrities without pics could be in legal peril. So, both the copyright owner and celebrity could both make a case.

Here's a hypothetical example. You post a titfight story about Britney Spears which includes a copyrighted pic. The photographer who owns the copyright finds out about it. What would happen? He/she would likely take action if the pic is being used for monetary gain, advertising, or promoting false information. Fortunately for you, none of these apply. The owner might find the content offensive. He/she would likely send a cease-and-desist order to the site, demanding the pics be removed immediately. That would likely be the end of it. Britney Spears finds out about your post. Again, you are not making money off the post, but she finds the pic and story highly offensive. She could have a legal case, claiming that the post caused her great emotional distress, humiliation, damage to her reputation or career. Not likely, especially from an obscure web site. She could send a cease-and-desist letter.

Practically speaking, the chances of any of this happening are extremely low. The internet is a sea of unauthorized pics and stories. Celebrities and copyright holders would need to find your post on FCF and care enough about it to take action. They have far greater concerns when it comes to the internet. Scarlett Johansson is suing a company that used her AI generated likeness and voice for an ad without her permission for monetary gain. Taylor Swift is threatening a lawsuit over AI generated sexually explicit photos that received 45 million views on X (formerly Twitter). Your worst nightmare would be if your story or fake pics go viral.

When you registered on FCF, I believe you checked a box that said, among other things, that you would not post unauthorized copyrighted material.
« Last Edit: August 03, 2024, 11:00:49 AM by Kiva »
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Offline F4UCORSAIR

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Re: Morality of using the pictures of celebrities in stories and polls.
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2024, 01:01:40 PM »
            Again, Kiva comes thru as the voice of reason.

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Offline MikeHales67

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Re: Morality of using the pictures of celebrities in stories and polls.
« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2024, 01:53:29 AM »
Kiva covered the legal reasons but I'd also like to add there's also the yuck factor.

I find it yucky to put real people in these stories, it feels too much like doing a deep fake porn video of someone and putting it on the internet. It takes away their agency.

I have done it once, but that was because they asked if they could be in one of my stories.

Fantasy is fantasy and it's not the real world. Fantasy should not come into the "Real World" and likewise the "Real World" should not come into Fantasy, otherwise you blur the boundaries between worlds and the next you know you're in the upside down world!
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Re: Morality of using the pictures of celebrities in stories and polls.
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2024, 09:36:09 PM »
What do you think about using the pictures of well-known celebrities/models/actresses in the stories? On one hand, these celebrities are public figures and sexualize themselves and are aware that people would use their likeness in fantasies, which is something that's been going on for probably centuries and has become very common in fan-fictions. On the other hand, most of them have probably never heard of catfighting fetish, and if they knew, they might not have released photos of themselves. I find the use of pictures to significantly increase the impact of the stories. I just want to make sure that I'm not doing something morally wrong.

In my polls I only use photos without face or any marks of women I know in real life and I ask them if they want to participate in a titfight poll. And I delete everything after the poll. The winner gets 100 €uro, which is around 100 USD sponsored by me. Okay, once I used the photo without face or tattoos of an onlyfans model. Sorry.

In general I do not like if people use photos of some models in their stories. Better describe the fighter and let the fantasy of the reader do the rest.