[lilfightingcutie2]

ok so I've been tussling on here for a while and like I get lots of girls, who are new to cyber tussling or who just want to get better, that ask me about how to be really good at cyber tussling. Its kinda hard to explain in a short period of time cause its way different then IRL tussling. Ya can't just do what comes natural to ya, ya gotta describe everything and try to let your opponent visualize the match cause its all in your heads. So I figured I'd write out some tips that I try to keep in mind when I tussle to try and keep it as fun as possible for me and my opponent. Please feel free to comment on this, I'd love to hear what ya think. And I'm not trying to say this is the only way to cyber tussle, just that I've learned from a lot of great tusslers on here and these are just things that help me try to be fun.

1. Always remember that when you're tussling it has to be fun for you AND for your opponent
     -What i mean is try to keep in mind that even though you might want to win, you're trying to have a fun match not just get another win for the record. You're trying to tell a fun story with your opponent, trying to help them visualize what you're doing so keep in mind that you should always make sure your opponent is having fun.

2. Check your posts before ya post them
      -Like read your post when you're finished and try to visualize whats going on in your head. Make sure it all makes sense and that its paints a picture of what you're trying to do. Remember she can't see whats in your head so ya gotta try to make it as clear as possible.

3. Try to include some detail
      -Now I'm not saying you need to write out a paragraph for each post, but it helps to be at least a lil descriptive so that your opponent can get a good idea of what you're doing. Try to break down your moves as much as possible so your opponent can get a good idea of what you're doing and how/if she can counter. Remember its no fun when ya can't do anything to stop someone. Supers totally suck! lol

4. Try to keep a submission hold time limit
      -What I mean is if you've been in a submission hold for more then 5 posts from your opponent and nothings changed, then you probably should have given up. Now I know some people are tougher then others so like each persons post limit should be different. I usually figure if I'm not out by 4 posts at the max then its tapping time lol. It just helps keep things more fair and fun for both of ya

5. Be realistic but don't overdo it
     -What I'm saying is if like you're a black belt in jiu jitsu IRL and you're tussling with a girl who's never wrestled IRL doing like prostyle and ya notice she's not really that good, maybe ya shouldn't just toss her around like a rag doll. Now if thats what she likes then thats fine, I'm just saying that I like to tailor my style and ability to my opponent. For example, if I'm in a pro style match and my opponent isn't super tough or knowledgable, then I'll try to do not as complicated moves and kinda make it back and forth. Remember its not a fun match if both people don't enjoy it

6. Limit offensive moves
    -This one can be really hard to remember especially if you're trying to set someone up for something. I try to keep it down to no more then two move attempts per post that way you keep it from being too much and almost impossible to block. Using words like "try" and "hope to" Also help keep moves open ended and helps leave room for your opponent to possibly counter. Also remember you don't have to post an offensive move every turn. Sometimes its the realistic thing to just give a detail post and let your opponent go. Its hard to to when you're trying to be competitive sometimes but remember realism is important if ya wanna have a fun match.

7. Always try to remember its more about fun then wins or losses
    -One of the biggest problems people have here, myself included, is getting caught up in wanting to win or possibly lose. Its easy to forget that you're trying to have fun with someone and to just keep going even though you're not being realistic. Especially in the Clique Wars where we keep track of wins and losses. Ya just gotta remember that when its all over its much better to have an awesome friend to tussle with and have fun with over and over then a win in the record books.

8. Always try to learn your opponents limits and what things they enjoy and don't enjoy before the match.
     -The reason I say this is cause just because you like erotic matches or some thing else doesn't mean your opponent does. Its always good to find out what kinda things they aren't comfy with before the match so ya can know what to avoid during your match.

9. Remember this isn't IRL
    -Sometimes its hard to remember that this is all pretend. For example, IRL it might work to come up to someone and say "Hey bitch I'm gonna kick your ass" But ya gotta remember online you're trying to get someone to have fun with you. Calling them names and being rude is not the way to get a fun tussle. All you're going to do is get ignored by most of the fun people.

10. If you're a jobber or someone who likes to win lots say so
     -Theres nothing wrong with liking to win more then lose or lose more then you win. If you enjoy getting beat up thats totally fine but if thats the case you should mention it to your opponent before the match. Let them know that thats what you like because maybe they enjoy competitive matches. They might enjoy taking ya on but if they're looking for a competitive match and you just want to get beat it can boring for your opponent and make them not wanna tussle with ya anymore.

11. Realism is very important
     -Unless you like to RP or you just enjoy wild unrealistic tussles, then please try to keep in mind that unrealistic fights are some of the worst things ever for people who enjoy realism. It's cool if you feel like you wanna be able to jump around and flip and do all sorts of crazy stuff but if you're 175lbs its not that likely. Try to keep in mind that if ya probably couldn't do it IRL ya shouldn't try it on here.

12. Always remember to acknowledge your opponents posts
     -This one was told to me by Allie who's one of my bestest friends and an amazing tussler. Like she said its never fun if ya just ignore what the other person wrote. Even if ya think it missed ya or ya blocked it ya should still at least acknowledge it in your answer.

13. If you're tussling in a conference always show your opponent your moves via IM before ya post them in the conference
     -This is one Heidi told me about. She's another amazing tussler who I love lots and like she said showing your opponent your moves first can help keep ya from posting confusing or unrealistic moves in the match. It never hurts to check with your opponent first to make sure you're being fair and that she agrees with your post.


Well thats about all the things I could think of. If anyone can think of anything I missed or maybe something you don't agree with please feel free to comment I'd love to hear from ya!!! Once again I'm not trying to say this is the only way to cyber tussle, just that these lil rules to follow have helped me get lots of fun matches and hopefully I've been fun for most of my opponents! I hope this helps out anyone who needed it and I can't wait to meet more awesome new friends to tussle with!!!! Thanks for taking the time to read this!!!  Kiss Kiss Kiss

Ami

Silk Stockings Girls TOTALLY RULE!!!!

[Wrestlerjunkee]

Thanks for posting this Ami, this and another guide I have in PDF are a really good ruleset!

[lilfightingcutie2]

Thanks for posting this Ami, this and another guide I have in PDF are a really good ruleset!

thanks so much!!! I didn't know ya had your own guidelines thingy too I'll have to check it out! Glad ya like mine, if theres anything I forgot or you'd just like to add please let me know

[Nutmeg]

Most 'rules' of cyber can be summed up with: Respect and communicate with your opponent. And have respect for yourself. If you have an issue bring it up. Don't whine to everyone afterwards that you were 'supered' when you did not feel it was important enough to bring up in a match. And by the same token, after a match if you did enjoy it maybe tell others, instead of ranting how the other person sucks as some seem to do thinking it will somehow get them more matches.

And if you feel a move is fair and realistic in your heart, defend it. I have seen people use the threat of crying 'super' on every move through a match.If this is happening either: You guys really aren't compatible, walk away; or they are doing that to bully you into moves they can actually defend against. Many super complaints is just misunderstandings or differences of opinion (one person's realism is another person's fantasy). And personally, if anyone ever suggested Rule 13 to me I would tell them maybe they should not be doing public matches.

Point is, yes you want both of you to have fun. But you are still here for yourself so don't be making it so you have no fun at all so the other person has a blast.  And there is no shame in saying a match is not working and walking away from it. I know some are devoted to making the match work at all costs or scared of the feedback if you decide to end one but you have to view this like a hobby. No one plays golf to be miserable playing it.  Neither should you cyber wrestle and be miserable as hell doing it.

[lilfightingcutie2]

thanks for the feedback, I'm not trying to say ya shouldn't have fun too, just try to make sure you're both having fun. I mostly just say that cause its soooo hard here to lose sight of that fact and to steer the match the way you want it to go instead of trying to have a mutually fun match. I totally agree with ya about communication. Its definitely very important in a match to keep it fun and flowing well. And I agree theres nothing wrong with ending a match cause ya not compatible with the other person just make sure you explain it first so they know your reasoning. And rule 13 I think is a great idea simply because in public matches it can get really hectic at times and I feel its better to check first with your opponent just in case they think maybe your moves unrealistic, or maybe ya misread their post and your move wouldn't work with how things are set up or maybe just to make sure its a good fun move before ya post for everyone to see. Again these are just lil tips that have worked for me that I thought I would share with everybody. Not trying to tell anyone how to tussle. Thanks Star Bear!!! I'm glad ya liked reading it!!!!

[Nutmeg]

The rule 13 thing to me is : So what? If you make a move you opponent disgress with that happens. Use the IM to discuss it, not to slow the match down even further by requesting approval before every post. And as an observer i would rather judge people as a potential opponent by their posts, not posts that their opponent may have helped them write.

For em that is the only use of a public match, to see if there are people I may wish to fight. But using rule 13 did I see two fair people fight or two people who argued over every single post, whose original posts were so out to lunch? That to me is very important to know. Plus it just sounds like it makes an already slow process even slower. Some may say it makes the matches prettier , but again, if you didn't know you two were compatible to fight maybe that is your first mistake.

If I knew someone was using that rule in a public match i would just not bother to watch. It would not serve the purpose I have to sit through something like that. If you are someone who actually enjoys watching those things or can't bear the world to know you make mistakes, maybe it might be something for you.

[RedEnforcer]

Thanks for posting these Ami. I agree that the biggest thing is communication. I think 13 is valid especially when things get complicated and intricate. In private matches I know I've had to pause and explain moves some times and positionings and it didn't disrupt the flow. In conferences I can see where IM messages can relieve that.  Most of all, just have fun, even if it is with someone new or someone you've fought for some time.

[lilfightingcutie2]

Thanks Red Enforcer!!! I understand it can slow the match a lil bit but I'm not saying show every single post. Plus this is mostly for people who may not have had a public match yet and it could be very helpful for them to check with their opponent before posting. I understand ya point Meg I just personally think its more helpful then not to check first before posting in a conference match.

[lilfightingcutie2]

Thank ya so much Lauren!!! You're so right about the fetishes thing. It can be kinda annoying when someone constantly pushes something ya not really into. Like ya said its all about respect and having fun!!!!

[Nutmeg]

Thanks Red Enforcer!!! I understand it can slow the match a lil bit but I'm not saying show every single post. Plus this is mostly for people who may not have had a public match yet and it could be very helpful for them to check with their opponent before posting. I understand ya point Meg I just personally think its more helpful then not to check first before posting in a conference match.

The impression I got was that you were showing every post. In fact you say to "always show your post before you post them'. That would be extremely useful to clarify before every newbie is making the horribly long conference matches into marathons And I think showing your posts warts and all in conference is a far better learning experience for a newbie or any one for that matter. But then a public match is exactly the same thing to me as a private match.

[Wrestlerjunkee]

Thanks Red Enforcer!!! I understand it can slow the match a lil bit but I'm not saying show every single post. Plus this is mostly for people who may not have had a public match yet and it could be very helpful for them to check with their opponent before posting. I understand ya point Meg I just personally think its more helpful then not to check first before posting in a conference match.

The impression I got was that you were showing every post. In fact you say to "always show your post before you post them'. That would be extremely useful to clarify before every newbie is making the horribly long conference matches into marathons And I think showing your posts warts and all in conference is a far better learning experience for a newbie or any one for that matter. But then a public match is exactly the same thing to me as a private match.

WEll having done both public and private fights, I would have to say public ones are a little more hard on the nerves than private.  Since I am not making an ass of myself if I do not explain something correctly to a bunch of people rather than one. 

[RedEnforcer]

Thanks Red Enforcer!!! I understand it can slow the match a lil bit but I'm not saying show every single post. Plus this is mostly for people who may not have had a public match yet and it could be very helpful for them to check with their opponent before posting. I understand ya point Meg I just personally think its more helpful then not to check first before posting in a conference match.

The impression I got was that you were showing every post. In fact you say to "always show your post before you post them'. That would be extremely useful to clarify before every newbie is making the horribly long conference matches into marathons And I think showing your posts warts and all in conference is a far better learning experience for a newbie or any one for that matter. But then a public match is exactly the same thing to me as a private match.

WEll having done both public and private fights, I would have to say public ones are a little more hard on the nerves than private.  Since I am not making an ass of myself if I do not explain something correctly to a bunch of people rather than one. 

This is true. Well except him not making an ass of himself. That just comes naturally.

And Lauren, you're right about the fetishes. I think if people are upfront from the get go, matches, especially with someone you don't know will flow better. Of course, knowing my opponent's kinks helps me "spice" things up for them some so the match is entertaining for both of us.

[Sexy Sarah]

ok so I've been tussling on here for a while and like I get lots of girls, who are new to cyber tussling or who just want to get better, that ask me about how to be really good at cyber tussling. Its kinda hard to explain in a short period of time cause its way different then IRL tussling. Ya can't just do what comes natural to ya, ya gotta describe everything and try to let your opponent visualize the match cause its all in your heads. So I figured I'd write out some tips that I try to keep in mind when I tussle to try and keep it as fun as possible for me and my opponent. Please feel free to comment on this, I'd love to hear what ya think. And I'm not trying to say this is the only way to cyber tussle, just that I've learned from a lot of great tusslers on here and these are just things that help me try to be fun.

1. Always remember that when you're tussling it has to be fun for you AND for your opponent
     -What i mean is try to keep in mind that even though you might want to win, you're trying to have a fun match not just get another win for the record. You're trying to tell a fun story with your opponent, trying to help them visualize what you're doing so keep in mind that you should always make sure your opponent is having fun.

2. Check your posts before ya post them
      -Like read your post when you're finished and try to visualize whats going on in your head. Make sure it all makes sense and that its paints a picture of what you're trying to do. Remember she can't see whats in your head so ya gotta try to make it as clear as possible.

3. Try to include some detail
      -Now I'm not saying you need to write out a paragraph for each post, but it helps to be at least a lil descriptive so that your opponent can get a good idea of what you're doing. Try to break down your moves as much as possible so your opponent can get a good idea of what you're doing and how/if she can counter. Remember its no fun when ya can't do anything to stop someone. Supers totally suck! lol

4. Try to keep a submission hold time limit
      -What I mean is if you've been in a submission hold for more then 5 posts from your opponent and nothings changed, then you probably should have given up. Now I know some people are tougher then others so like each persons post limit should be different. I usually figure if I'm not out by 4 posts at the max then its tapping time lol. It just helps keep things more fair and fun for both of ya

5. Be realistic but don't overdo it
     -What I'm saying is if like you're a black belt in jiu jitsu IRL and you're tussling with a girl who's never wrestled IRL doing like prostyle and ya notice she's not really that good, maybe ya shouldn't just toss her around like a rag doll. Now if thats what she likes then thats fine, I'm just saying that I like to tailor my style and ability to my opponent. For example, if I'm in a pro style match and my opponent isn't super tough or knowledgable, then I'll try to do not as complicated moves and kinda make it back and forth. Remember its not a fun match if both people don't enjoy it

6. Limit offensive moves
    -This one can be really hard to remember especially if you're trying to set someone up for something. I try to keep it down to no more then two move attempts per post that way you keep it from being too much and almost impossible to block. Using words like "try" and "hope to" Also help keep moves open ended and helps leave room for your opponent to possibly counter. Also remember you don't have to post an offensive move every turn. Sometimes its the realistic thing to just give a detail post and let your opponent go. Its hard to to when you're trying to be competitive sometimes but remember realism is important if ya wanna have a fun match.

7. Always try to remember its more about fun then wins or losses
    -One of the biggest problems people have here, myself included, is getting caught up in wanting to win or possibly lose. Its easy to forget that you're trying to have fun with someone and to just keep going even though you're not being realistic. Especially in the Clique Wars where we keep track of wins and losses. Ya just gotta remember that when its all over its much better to have an awesome friend to tussle with and have fun with over and over then a win in the record books.

8. Always try to learn your opponents limits and what things they enjoy and don't enjoy before the match.
     -The reason I say this is cause just because you like erotic matches or some thing else doesn't mean your opponent does. Its always good to find out what kinda things they aren't comfy with before the match so ya can know what to avoid during your match.

9. Remember this isn't IRL
    -Sometimes its hard to remember that this is all pretend. For example, IRL it might work to come up to someone and say "Hey bitch I'm gonna kick your ass" But ya gotta remember online you're trying to get someone to have fun with you. Calling them names and being rude is not the way to get a fun tussle. All you're going to do is get ignored by most of the fun people.

10. If you're a jobber or someone who likes to win lots say so
     -Theres nothing wrong with liking to win more then lose or lose more then you win. If you enjoy getting beat up thats totally fine but if thats the case you should mention it to your opponent before the match. Let them know that thats what you like because maybe they enjoy competitive matches. They might enjoy taking ya on but if they're looking for a competitive match and you just want to get beat it can boring for your opponent and make them not wanna tussle with ya anymore.

11. Realism is very important
     -Unless you like to RP or you just enjoy wild unrealistic tussles, then please try to keep in mind that unrealistic fights are some of the worst things ever for people who enjoy realism. It's cool if you feel like you wanna be able to jump around and flip and do all sorts of crazy stuff but if you're 175lbs its not that likely. Try to keep in mind that if ya probably couldn't do it IRL ya shouldn't try it on here.

12. Always remember to acknowledge your opponents posts
     -This one was told to me by Allie who's one of my bestest friends and an amazing tussler. Like she said its never fun if ya just ignore what the other person wrote. Even if ya think it missed ya or ya blocked it ya should still at least acknowledge it in your answer.

13. If you're tussling in a conference always show your opponent your moves via IM before ya post them in the conference
     -This is one Heidi told me about. She's another amazing tussler who I love lots and like she said showing your opponent your moves first can help keep ya from posting confusing or unrealistic moves in the match. It never hurts to check with your opponent first to make sure you're being fair and that she agrees with your post.


Well thats about all the things I could think of. If anyone can think of anything I missed or maybe something you don't agree with please feel free to comment I'd love to hear from ya!!! Once again I'm not trying to say this is the only way to cyber tussle, just that these lil rules to follow have helped me get lots of fun matches and hopefully I've been fun for most of my opponents! I hope this helps out anyone who needed it and I can't wait to meet more awesome new friends to tussle with!!!! Thanks for taking the time to read this!!!  Kiss Kiss Kiss

Ami

Silk Stockings Girls TOTALLY RULE!!!!

I just re-read all this again. Ami you are just AMAZING. It should be laminated and given out to everyone on entry to the clique wars!
xoxo
PS I love when I come online 1st thing in the morning and you are there and we have a wee chat. Its soooo cute.

[lilfightingcutie2]

Thanks so much everyone for all ya great comments!! I'm really glad so many people like my ideas and its really awesome to hear about other stuff I might have forgotten so thanks Lauren!!!! And Sarah thanks so much!! I loves my sweet Scottish lassie tons and I love our lil chats too!! I hope they help ya wake up in a great mood!!! Thanks again everyone I appreciate all ya comments!!!

[Boundfighter]

Its and amazing post. Thank you Ami for this.

I totally agree with the " rules ". We are all here to find fun and distract from reallife.

Respect to my opponent is on off the most importent things for me, If i have no respect my opponent will have no fun and the whole play makes no sense.

There is one more thing to say. Read the posts of your opponent correct. Notice that he / she wants to say. Otherwise the repost makes no sense

Ty for this. Think anyone who starts with cyberfighting have to read this first.

Ahhh yes and one importent point more. DON'T BE RUDE Lol

Huggs

Jürgen