[vivvivve]

well the title says it all. who else hates ultimate surrender and nude fight club and their endless spam and badly scripted fights?

[COYOTE]

I also am not a great fan of them.I love the outcome of the matches but i don't like the apparel they wear.(sneakers and the sstuff).It's just me I guess,but I wish the women fought in a different setting than an wrestling ring and they were dressed sexier.Chich fight would be GREAT if the women fought before all the sex.lol

[EdgarSlam]

I think this is purely perspective, but I see it as caught between erotica and actual sport.
In a sense, I think it takes itself too seriously, and that's when it punches a hole in it own
hard work. I don't mean they could joke about, although maybe stern laughs might not
hurt. - Someone needs to sneak in and tell that that no matter how pro they can make
the sets look... it's not pro. So why not just enjoy what you've got, and what you can
do with it?

[EdgarSlam]

...there went a serious fellow. That's the shy business stifling individual.

[LQQKING4CATFIGHTER]

  There are things I dislike and also like about US...

  Like...  Ariel, Dia, Dragonlily all fought at US, post fight humiliation, pre fight interviews

  Dislike... Points for sex moves, some butch looking fighters, some fighters are more into the sex fight (grinding and fingering) and not as competitive in wrestling.

  If the sex side of the match is moved into RD. 4  only,  I would be happy and buy more matches from them.

[tammyfjort]

I don't mind the sex aspects at all but it's all so predictive. very easy to tell there's one guy with specific tastes making the decisions. even before the match starts you can often tell who will win and often it's all so obviously scripted. oh and then what I really really hate is how they're all over the place if you search for anything related to this topic. maybe they should learn the lesson from Microsoft. that strategy isn't such a good idea

[DoYouKnowWhoIAm?]

To me, both are crap.

What they have in common is that neither was created by people with a prior interest in the femfight genre, but are subsidiaries of porn conglomerates. Consequently, what they produce is not female combat, but pornography with a combat theme, and the difference is apparent to any real fan.

Having said that, some femfight fans obviously enjoy lesbian porn also, so to them, it may not matter too much.

[floon]

The shoes are really ugly but I saw one of the girls say that the mat is so stiff and hard that toe injuries are a problem.  Lose the shoes and get a softer mat so the girls can wrestle BAREFOOT!
Also enough with the one sided match ups, get sick of watching some rookie get owned by a veteran.  The scoring for sex moves is also stupid, thats why you get scores of 362 to 5.

[LQQKING4CATFIGHTER]

The shoes are really ugly but I saw one of the girls say that the mat is so stiff and hard that toe injuries are a problem.  Lose the shoes and get a softer mat so the girls can wrestle BAREFOOT!
Also enough with the one sided match ups, get sick of watching some rookie get owned by a veteran.  The scoring for sex moves is also stupid, thats why you get scores of 362 to 5.

  100% agree about the one sided fights,  would like to see more rookie vs rookie matches.

[DavidUK]

It all looks a bit samey to me - not much variety or creativity.

Sure, the concept is fine but after so many videos they need to do something different. Always on for watching a match featuring Christina Carter though!

[BigDevil]

I don't like it at all the idea of women fighting in that style is just idiotic to me. I mean give me a break.

[mac4]

I've never seen an Utimate Surrender video, just a sampling of pics. But for me in my fantasies of females fighting it ends with one girl laying helpless on the mat being subject to sexual abuse from another woman which includes mauling of the tits, crotch and some facesitting. Some of Joan Wise's best videos featured all of these elements - as far as fingering and or rping the victim - well if it's told and accepted by the combatents that the match will end this way then what's the problem, especially if they re lesbians?

If I was told if I got into a match with one of these women and lost that she would give me a hand job or blow job then sign me up!!!!

[DJP60]

i have subscribed to U/S once and the jury for me is out. i will not go back soon but in the future?

[LQQKING4CATFIGHTER]

I don't mind the sex aspects at all but it's all so predictive. very easy to tell there's one guy with specific tastes making the decisions. even before the match starts you can often tell who will win and often it's all so obviously scripted. oh and then what I really really hate is how they're all over the place if you search for anything related to this topic. maybe they should learn the lesson from Microsoft. that strategy isn't such a good idea

  I find how competitive the match is, depends on the fighters, when Ariel, Dia, Dragonlily and fighters like they meet on US mats, they do not want to lose to one another and good match. Where you see the feel of scripted match come in during the many one sided ass kicking they like to set up, they must tell the Dominate fighter what moves they are looking to shoot and know she will control the action and give them what they want.
  The Best US matches are the final rounds of the Summer event they hold to crown a Champ. A lot of pride on the line and the fighting is more Grappling and not sex fighting.

[plzdaim]

I like fighting better if its more competitive and less sexualized.
So these sites are not my cup of tea.
Plz