For over a year there has been a hate campaign coming from a guy who is a videographer for ECNWC. His main name is Stephen (some may know him as Grassland). I've known Bob of ECNWC for years and doubt seriously if he would condone Stephen's smear campaign. Finally, this morning I wrote Bob about it asking him to tell this guy to stop the dirt. I pointed out that Stephen is an agent of ECNWC, and therefore I thought he should know about the extent of Stephen's obsession. I will wait to see if Bob responds.
Since I was brought up on this thread...
First, Nominal lives in the Southwest. I live in the Mid-Atlantic. I met him at a shoot when his girlfriend at the time fought for Bob.
Anyone here can call Bob to verify these, but be warned, he might hang up the phone. When I first started help Bob, he told me that if I ever spoke with John he would never speak to me again. Needless to say, I don't bring up ECC with Bob. He told me he dislikes John so much that he won't even sell John a DVD, much less give him one. There is a real dislike between the two. I don't know why ECC tries to gloss that over. Call Bob and ask him. Feel free. His number is on his website. He will also back up that my GF, or wife, never worked for him.
Bob is also a friend of mine and he considers me a friend. Bob loses thousands of dollars a year doing this, but it is his love and his passion. It bothers me when people discredit what he tries to do. Not everyone may like his product, which is natural, but trying to paint it in a certain way is wrong.
These are all facts, not smears.
And I would have never brought up anything on an ECC thread if ECC did not bring my name up.