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SuiteFights Sponsorship - BROOKE vs CHARLIE - May 30, 2015

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Re: SuiteFights Sponsorship - BROOKE vs CHARLIE - May 30, 2015
« Reply #75 on: June 02, 2015, 02:58:56 AM »
STATUS UPDATE

Pics are out.

I'll be sending the 1080p and 4K versions tomorrow, as they'll need all night to finish uploading. Sorry again for having slow-ass internet.

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Re: SuiteFights Sponsorship - BROOKE vs CHARLIE - May 30, 2015
« Reply #76 on: June 02, 2015, 03:45:36 AM »
I did not think suitefights would be able to find two women that would match the intensity of Jess and Jemma  BUT DAMN!!!   These two women flat out catfight.  If this isnt the best catfight I have seen from any producer then it is tied for first.  The breast attacks are some of the most brutal I have ever seen plus hair pulling and trash talking you do not see anywhere else.  Absolutely AMAZING.  There is a clear winner with this catfignt and it is anyone who buys it!!!

This is absolutely a catfight you have to buy and I am glad I was sponsor to get it all early!!!!   Thank you Suitefights!!

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Re: SuiteFights Sponsorship - BROOKE vs CHARLIE - May 30, 2015
« Reply #77 on: June 02, 2015, 07:35:38 PM »
Kinda regretting not putting money in paypal ahead of time...

Couldn't sponsor this time. Maybe on the next one.

Suitefights sure is catching fire though. Things can only get better from here.

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A request to the Suitefights producer.
« Reply #78 on: June 03, 2015, 01:36:12 AM »
STATUS UPDATE
I had wanted to "test the waters" because I felt that footage was, to put it generously, COMPLETE SHIT. The footage you saw was taken from the 4th and final round and featured a tired, frustrated Charlie who, despite dominating most of the fight, simply wanted to get the shoot over with, by any means necessary. It's two minutes of ass and WILL NOT be included in the final edit. That's the kind of fake crap that made me want to make my own videos in the first place.

To put some minds at ease, if you were happy with the footage from cam 1, you should enjoy the rest of the fight, as the action is more consistent with that clip. The final edit is approximately 16 minutes in length. I will admit I didn't put as much effort into the edit (no music, etc.) because I've felt like shit the past few days, so apologies beforehand.

Why was Charlie frustrated? Partly because of a misunderstanding of what the rules were and what was expected of her, and partly due to my inability to make her understand, despite several discussions in-between rounds.

In any case, I wanted to be completely honest with you, the sponsors, so that you don't feel ripped off. Your support has been fantastic and I hope this fiasco will not diminish your view of me.


Edited to add: If you're a sponsor, I can send you the shit footage separately if you really want to see it; just ask. Some people liked that stuff.

Edited to add again: And apologies for the shitty lighting in some of the photos. I gotta look at getting some new lights.

I'm not a sponsor, so I haven't seen the supposed "shit footage". But, from the description, it sounds like the perfect way for a tough and, till then, even catfight to end, with the girl who was dominant at the start capitulating and allowing the other to dominate her and slap her around.

No matter how good the previous action was, I personally wouldn't pay to watch it knowing I was going to miss out on seeing that happen at the end. So please don't cut it out of the download.

Here's a few points to consider: 1. If you are committed to producing REAL catfights, then don't compromise that by editing out footage because you think some fans wouldn't like it. They may not like it, but others will, as the requests from people who want to see the footage you refer to proves.

If I buy a download of a fight, I want to see the whole thing, from begining to end, so I know what REALLY happened.

2. One guy here rather naively referred to the footage in question as performance, rather than reality. Here's a news flash - ALL studio produced catfights are part performance, part fight. That's what makes them different, and much sexier to watch, than sports fights like female MMA.

As long as you didn't tell Charlie to perform in the way she did, and it was just a reflection of the way she herself reacted when she knew she wasn't going to win and wanted out, then that is legit, non-scripted catfight action, and should be viewed as such.

Third and final point.

Now that you have described how the fight ended, and the sponsors have actually seen it for themselves, or part of it at least, is there really any point in cutting it out of the final edition, and asking everybody to either just pretend they haven't heard about it, or make believe that they didn't see it?

Sounds crazy, yeah? That's because it IS crazy. Just leave the final round in. If knowing how it went doesn't detract from the toughness of the earlier rounds, then seeing it happen won't detract either.

And in case this fight is going to be watched by guys who would be upset by the sight one girl gently slapping another into submission, you can post a warning just before it happens so they can stop the video at that point and save themselves from the horror of watching it.


« Last Edit: June 03, 2015, 01:39:06 AM by kafkod »

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Re: SuiteFights Sponsorship - BROOKE vs CHARLIE - May 30, 2015
« Reply #79 on: June 03, 2015, 02:05:48 AM »
Kafkod  I have to admit you are always good entertainment.  I rarely if ever agree with anything you say but you are certainly allowed to have an opinion no matter how misguided.  Thank you for your post and the fun

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Re: SuiteFights Sponsorship - BROOKE vs CHARLIE - May 30, 2015
« Reply #80 on: June 03, 2015, 02:18:59 AM »
STATUS UPDATE

All content (even the "crap" footage) has been sent, save for the 4K edit. I'm going to have to re-upload the file tonight and send it when it's ready. Apologies for you videophiles...

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Re: SuiteFights Sponsorship - BROOKE vs CHARLIE - May 30, 2015
« Reply #81 on: June 03, 2015, 02:27:43 AM »
Kafkod  I have to admit you are always good entertainment.  I rarely if ever agree with anything you say but you are certainly allowed to have an opinion no matter how misguided.  Thank you for your post and the fun

Mandarin, please don't try and patronise me like that. I made what I consider to be legitimate points in my post, and gave my honest opinion on what this producer is proposing to do with his fight film.

If you think I am misguided, then tell me why.

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Re: SuiteFights Sponsorship - BROOKE vs CHARLIE - May 30, 2015
« Reply #82 on: June 03, 2015, 02:44:30 AM »
I'll add my congratulations to Suitefights on the fantastic Brooke vs Charlie fight ... has all the ferocious attacks that made CR080 Chantelle v Tooney a classic!!

My 2c worth ... if  I was the director of the final cut, I'd leave that final round in - rather than show weakness, to me the "loser" simply ran out of conditioning, and the fitter woman won.
It also gave us a chance to see how "cut up" the "loser's" breasts were ... and how hard some of those holds were that were hidden behind the long hair!

Thanks again for a great product and brilliant PR.

wizard

 

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Re: SuiteFights Sponsorship - BROOKE vs CHARLIE - May 30, 2015
« Reply #83 on: June 03, 2015, 02:48:31 AM »
I agree wizard   it did show that the breasts were marked and both women had to feel it during and after the fight.

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Re: SuiteFights Sponsorship - BROOKE vs CHARLIE - May 30, 2015
« Reply #84 on: June 03, 2015, 03:03:39 AM »
Kafkod  I have to admit you are always good entertainment.  I rarely if ever agree with anything you say but you are certainly allowed to have an opinion no matter how misguided.  Thank you for your post and the fun

Ha. So it is not just me then? I think it is a little harsh to say Kafkod is good entertainment, but i certainly find myself not being on the same page as him quite a lot. To each their own, i respect that kafkod has his own tastes, so whatever.

SuiteFights: Good fight, enjoyed it...very nice work.

Not sure i would say it is the best thing ever in terms of action like people seem to be going crazy over in this thread, but i must say your production quality really is quite excellent - 4k cameras are seriously the tits for filming this kind of footage. Great looking women too.

I was thinking the same kind of thing as other people have mentioned about the cam2 sample clip too, and I watched the 'crap' vid file you just released and I can see what you mean. Although admittedly it was interesting to see this extra bit of footage for context and to see the war wounds, however i completely agree with your reasoning for removing it from the final edit and would have done the same myself.

Really would love to see you include face slapping into your allowed rules! I would also like to see more hairpulling (maybe me being a bit nitpicky here though). And encourage more trash talking from both women, i think quite a few people including myself are fans of that. (in the interest of transparency, because i hate being mislead by other people about stuff like this, i feel i should point out that there is not actually much trash talk at all in my opinion...)

Well worth a purchase overall though, highly recommended!

Hope to see more releases soon! Seems like you are onto a popular format here :)

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Re: SuiteFights Sponsorship - BROOKE vs CHARLIE - May 30, 2015
« Reply #85 on: June 03, 2015, 03:29:48 AM »
nahhhhh, i just watched the removed last round again and Charlie is really half-hearted and Brooke seems to be holding back and it turns more into playfighting complete with the familiar 'damsel in distress so ill kick my leg up and down helplessly' thing and fake sounding noises... I am 100% with what SuiteFights said about it on this one.

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Re: SuiteFights Sponsorship - BROOKE vs CHARLIE - May 30, 2015
« Reply #86 on: June 03, 2015, 05:55:50 AM »
Im happy someone brought up the battle damage to the boobies because that is really HOT for me.....and I had not seen it until it was pointed out......shows graphically the intensity of the fight.....and it was most apparant in that deleted final round footage.....best I can tell Charlie came up on the short end on the battle of the boobs which would explain why she lost her will to take the fight to Brooke any longer.....by that last round Charlie was definitely thinking about soaking her titties in a bucket of ice water.....Brooke must have one hell of a grip....that all being said.....I respect the right of the producer to create whatever image he wants......even though there is a good amount of back and forth on this editing choice......it is soley at the discretion of the guy making the film as to what stays and what goes......his only mistake was bringing it up to his audience.......that all being said.....I cannot say this particular catfight was the be-all-end-all for catfight productions......but id venture to guess this particular fight is going to go down as one of the best for a host of reasons aside from the editing choices......and it is going to go Platinum as soon as it is released to the public......cannot imagine any true fan of catfighting to not buy this fight.......im looking forward to getting more into the particulars of this fight and the tactics both girls used.....but since only a relatively few of us have actually watched the fight...l need to restrain myself until it has been released to the public and they can watch the action in full before saying too much more......one thing for certain......this fight is a must for any fan of catfighting.....

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Re: SuiteFights Sponsorship - BROOKE vs CHARLIE - May 30, 2015
« Reply #87 on: June 03, 2015, 09:20:45 AM »
just a suggestion but next time mayb you can have it so no chokeholds and scissor holds are allowed, felt like the grappling in the vid took away from some action that couldve happened like in the jess vs jemma fight which i felt was a better video just some critique so we can make suitefights better in the future
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Re: SuiteFights Sponsorship - BROOKE vs CHARLIE - May 30, 2015
« Reply #88 on: June 03, 2015, 09:21:54 AM »
just a few suggestions
« Last Edit: June 03, 2015, 10:21:52 AM by deity17313 »
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Re: A request to the Suitefights producer.
« Reply #89 on: June 03, 2015, 02:47:22 PM »
I'm not a sponsor, so I haven't seen the supposed "shit footage". But, from the description, it sounds like the perfect way for a tough and, till then, even catfight to end, with the girl who was dominant at the start capitulating and allowing the other to dominate her and slap her around.

Hi Kafkod, having now watched the 'crap footage', I can confidently assure you it's the exact opposite of a perfect way to end this video. Trust me on this one. Nothing what you wrote describes what happens. And trust the producer, if you like to see women in genuine competition with a real desire to win. Then the deleted scene end part will massively disappoint you. It's got absolutely nothing to do with 'capitulating and allowing the other to dominate her and slap her around', but clearly more to do with "I'm bored with this, I have no interest in who wins, I'll fake for 1 minute then get my money"

If you saw it you would be seeing the ultimate cock block for all catfight fans. Unless you really like DT Wrestling or APL?

To add this on the end would be like bringing in a child actor to replace Al Pacino in his role as the Godfather on the second movie and replacing Marlon Brando with Pee Wee Herman in the first Godfather film.

As it stands it is pure, raw, visceral, clean and authentic. I'm like you though, I too wanted to see this deleted scene out of curiosity. Now I've seen it, it will not even get a second viewing. It would have ruined an otherwise all time classic catfight.

No matter how good the previous action was, I personally wouldn't pay to watch it knowing I was going to miss out on seeing that happen at the end. So please don't cut it out of the download.

I don't for one minute believe that you'd be so silly as to miss out on viewing one of the best catfights ever filmed for the sake of hopefully scaring the producer to include some crap in order to get a sale from you.

Here's a few points to consider: 1. If you are committed to producing REAL catfights, then don't compromise that by editing out footage because you think some fans wouldn't like it. They may not like it, but others will, as the requests from people who want to see the footage you refer to proves.

The problem for a producer as honest as this guy at Suitefights is that by being honest and open he can potentially reveal too much info at times, which will result in yet another 'expert fan' telling him how to do his job as above.

It's a difficult one from a producer's point of view, because he knows fans like Kafkod are just curious to see what happens at the end, but he also knows Kafkod speaks from a perspective of complete ignorance about the actual content of the deleted scene he desires to see, and how Kafkod would actually not like what he saw when he saw it. Like a child wanting more chocolate, then vomiting it up afterwards when he's had too much.

It's like the Aliens film. The theatrical release is clean, pure, visceral. But fans want those extra scenes like the gun turrets in the corridor, a deleted scene that adds nothing to the movie, does not advance the story, is superfluous to the narrative, but it's a couple of guns firing at xenomorphs down a corridor which is fun to see.

Taking that analogy and applying it to the deleted scene of the Brooke vs. Charlie catfight, These gun turrets refuse to fire, jam, no bullets are fired, then the tripod they are mounted on falls over and stops. Would you like to see that scene? Perhaps not.

If I buy a download of a fight, I want to see the whole thing, from begining to end, so I know what REALLY happened.

If you own 500 catfight videos, trust me, not one of them will fit the description above. Editing is inevitable in all video production. Perhaps the mistake the producer made was telling us about this crap deleted scene. But I can see why he did, due to what I spotted on Cam 2. And he did the right thing.

2. One guy here rather naively referred to the footage in question as performance, rather than reality. Here's a news flash - ALL studio produced catfights are part performance, part fight. That's what makes them different, and much sexier to watch, than sports fights like female MMA.

I think the NEWS FLASH was misinformed and based on incorrect information. Instead of a binary opposite either or scenario you are erroneously presenting here in that something is either performed or sports real, the truth is as follows. I actually agree with what you say, there is performance in even the most authentic competitive catfights. But what you don't acknowledge is that there are varying levels of performance. When Charlie early on is nastily grabbing Brooke's tit, viciously yanking a wedgie, the joy in her face and looks to camera are an element of her showing off and loving it, she looks good on camara because of this added level of performance. But it's still 100% genuine competitive action. It also happens in MMA too. The degree of performance is another thing though. In the final act deleted scene it is 100% performance, zero competitive, and poor performance too, think sub standard DT Wrestling or APL fakery.

My naivety.... If I am naive about what I've seen, then what does that make you, coming from the perspective of someone who has not even seen this catfight yet. Something more than naive, the correct term would be ignorant. I'm not trying to insult you Kafkod, just describing the perspective of someone who is speaking about a subject they temporarily know nothing about, i.e. ignorance. :)

Now that you have described how the fight ended, and the sponsors have actually seen it for themselves, or part of it at least, is there really any point in cutting it out of the final edition, and asking everybody to either just pretend they haven't heard about it, or make believe that they didn't see it?

Yes, because it's shit. It's genuinely shit. It's cock block shit. It's everything this producer hates about fake scripted unauthentic supposed catfights. If you want shit, and refuse to buy this superb classic catfight if it doesn't add that shit on the end. Don't buy it, simple as that. Leave us true catfight fans who love real catfights that are 100% competitive to bathe in the aura of this godlike producer's awesomeness. See, I can be sycophantic too, ;)

But seriously Kafkod, I fully appreciate what motivates you. Curiosity, I was exactly like you, I wanted to see it too, but now I've seen it, I wished I hadn't, it would ruin a classic if he added it on the end. And I hope he doesn't. And I'm sure if you ask the producer politely, he'll send that piece of fake crap to you too, and if he doesn't, I gladly will in order to shut you up and prevent you from ruining something that is near perfection.

You'll love the catfight though, it's one of the best catfight's out there. Please don't miss out on viewing something so great because you like sprinkled dog shit on your icecream :)

Bless :)

Ade

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JEFF THE REF IS DEAD
He was an icon in the catfight industry. A nice man with a great sense of humour, and a good eye for letting the girls just scrap when things got heated. We'll miss you Jeff. RIP