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UFC197 Miesha Tate v. Holly Holm Predictions

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Offline Shay Marie

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UFC197 Miesha Tate v. Holly Holm Predictions
« on: January 13, 2016, 09:49:14 PM »
So, it's been announced. Miesha gets her shot at the title against Holly. What are your predictions for this fight?

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Offline Shay Marie

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Re: UFC197 Miesha Tate v. Holly Holm Predictions
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2016, 09:50:28 PM »
I will be the first...

Miesha in round 4 via submission.

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Offline HumiliationOne

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Re: UFC197 Miesha Tate v. Holly Holm Predictions
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2016, 03:32:13 AM »
Thanks for starting this thread.
Holly Holm 32-3 Pro Boxing record  /  10-0 Pro MMA record  7 wins by KO
Nickname:   The Preacher's Daughter
From:   Albuquerque, New Mexico USA
Fights Out Of:   Albuquerque, New Mexico USA
Age:   34
Height:   5' 8" ( 172 cm )
Weight:   135 lb ( 61 kg )
Reach   69"
Leg Reach   38"

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Miesha Tate     22-5 Pro MMA record
Nickname:   Cupcake
From:   Tacoma, Washington USA
Fights Out Of:   Las Vegas, Nevada USA
Age:   29
Height:   5' 6" ( 167 cm )
Weight:   135 lb ( 61 kg )
Reach   64"
College:   Central Washington University

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  Holly in a complete beat down.  Tate is a very good wrestler and a very tough girl but she has never faced what she is about to face against Holm.  Holly is the next level female MMA athlete.  World champion boxer who has now dedicated herself to MMA and has the best coaching.  Her lateral and head movement, onothodox southpaw stance, FIVE ! inch reach advantage, snapping right jab and powerful left will all equal a bloodbath for Tate on the feet.  Not to mention Holly is a kickboxer. 
Tate will go in cautious trying not to make same mistake Ronda did.  Holly will also be cautious not wanting to get taken down.  Tate will begin to get walked down and start eating jabs.  When Tate tries to close distance with punches, Holly will use her amazing straight left counter punches.  Tate will dive in for leg takedowns and Holly will sprawl and make her pay on way in and out.  Repeat...
  Tate will be lucky to make it through 2 rounds .  Vegas has Holm favored 4 to 1.  I have it Holm 6 to 1.
   Looking forward to seeing Cupcake get KTFO

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Re: UFC197 Miesha Tate v. Holly Holm Predictions
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2016, 03:41:57 AM »
Cupcake gets squashed by Holly.

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Re: UFC197 Miesha Tate v. Holly Holm Predictions
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2016, 04:28:54 AM »
Miesha is the first real wrestler that Holm has faced. She'll be the first person to get a successful takedown on Holm. She won't be fat/lazy/stupid like Ronda was, and the only problem she had with Rousey was that her skill set was exactly the worst possible to beat Ronda with. Miesha will take Holm deep into the fight, but her standup hasn't improved enough to get the win. Holm via decision.
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Re: UFC197 Miesha Tate v. Holly Holm Predictions
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2016, 06:25:13 AM »
I'm really glad that Dana decided to give Miesha her break rather than go for a rematch between RR and HH next summer.  Just to make it interesting and give Miesha credit, I'd love to see her score an upset with a 4th round submission over Holly, but... ummm, won't happen.  I predict that Holly may likely knock Miesha out, possibly with that lethal leg kick of hers.  Holly's superior boxing skills and reach will be very difficult for Miesha to penetrate, counter and/or stop.  And Holly's muscular legs are like tree trunks when they hit.  RR can surely attest to that.  It would be good for the female UFC that this fight last longer than the Rowdy one's first round armbar submissions.  Misha is tough and I really enjoy watching her fight, especially her wrestling/ground game, but in my humble opinion, Holly is notch above all other UFC women in her weight class and will be hard to beat.  If she doesn't knock Miesha out, I believe that Holly will win by unanimous decision.  Hopefully, it will be a close fight, but... damn, Holly is so good at hitting hard!     

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Re: UFC197 Miesha Tate v. Holly Holm Predictions
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2016, 10:27:29 AM »
If Tate couldn't beat Zingano, I don't see how she can beat Holm.

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Re: UFC197 Miesha Tate v. Holly Holm Predictions
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2016, 05:51:37 PM »
this one  will be quite a war, though I predict Holm will take Tate. The fitness is similar, but Tate simply has no answer for Holm's boxing and reach. Holly has great footwork and an ability to stay out at a distance that has always to me seemed twice what ought to be possible to her. combo of arm-reach and those long legs.  Holly can stay so far out, moves great and has what boxers call "ring generalship, she can move fighters around the ring where she wants to go with them.   What I don't think we know yet is how good Holly is on the ground.  I doubt when things go to ground that holly will be so able to go back to stand-up like she did with Rousey.

Tate still has all the stuff she had to take Rousey past round one when noone else had been able to, and she's not burdened down with Ronda's level or arrogance. Tate is the more well-rounded mma fighter than Holm is, and will dominate downfighting  and may be close to dominant on the cage. Yet, she can take a hit, and unlike rousey, Tate doesn't think there has been some cosmic miscarriage of justice  if she does get hit.

It's 5 to 6 n pick 'em with these two- the best sort of a fight! I'm hedge my bets, but I will pick Tate. Oh, and hey- for the first time online I'll say this: I predicted Holm could well beat Rousey way long before anyone else thought it likely. Fighting mma is so FAST, and at this level ability differences are not so great. Yet and still: it will be a war, but one Holm will win. IF she does..OH MY will UFC 200 rematch with Rousey ever be  be EPIC!!

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Re: UFC197 Miesha Tate v. Holly Holm Predictions
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2016, 08:37:54 PM »
Miesha Tate vis submission round two. Holly looks like a drowning possum on the ground and Miesha will make sure she spends alot of time there. ;) One dimensional Holly is in big trouble but hell, so was Buster Douglass right? It's all guess work really.....

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Re: UFC197 Miesha Tate v. Holly Holm Predictions
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2016, 09:52:17 PM »
Miesha Tate vis submission round two. Holly looks like a drowning possum on the ground and Miesha will make sure she spends alot of time there. ;) One dimensional Holly is in big trouble but hell, so was Buster Douglass right? It's all guess work really.....

Major difference:  Buster Douglas didn't even try to defend his belt.  Holly will.

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Re: UFC197 Miesha Tate v. Holly Holm Predictions
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2016, 11:24:31 PM »
Very cool to see so much interest in discussing female mma on here as I have mentioned a few times that I am a huge fan.  Also very sweet that a few of you think pretty little Tate has a legit shot.  If anyone is interested I did a fantasy story on this fight in my Holm v Rousey 2 story. Meisha will not be able to get Holly to the ground with out being pummeled. If and when she gets her there we she will not be strong enough to keep her there. Holly will throw Tate around. What would be super hot is if Tate does get top control and Holly gets her in guard and wraps those freaking long muscular around her neck and puts her to sleep.  Tate is a wreslting warrior but she does not possess that killer violent aggression with strikes like Holly/Cat/Ronda/Nunes do. 

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Re: UFC197 Miesha Tate v. Holly Holm Predictions
« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2016, 08:49:04 AM »
Holly by submission ??? Now that would be incredible and legend building. As far as Buster Douglas not defending his belt??? Evander Holyfield doesn't count? Are you crazy? Douglas lost his belt via 3rd round knockout to a God, and I think the major difference is he is a large black man not a woman really :P. Credit to Douglas, he put on an absolute boxing lesson when he whipped Tyson much like Holly did when she simply destroyed Ronda.

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Re: UFC197 Miesha Tate v. Holly Holm Predictions
« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2016, 01:45:17 PM »
Holly by submission ??? Now that would be incredible and legend building. As far as Buster Douglas not defending his belt??? Evander Holyfield doesn't count? Are you crazy? Douglas lost his belt via 3rd round knockout to a God, and I think the major difference is he is a large black man not a woman really :P. Credit to Douglas, he put on an absolute boxing lesson when he whipped Tyson much like Holly did when she simply destroyed Ronda.

Douglas was overweight and out of shape for the Holyfield fight.

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Re: UFC197 Miesha Tate v. Holly Holm Predictions
« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2016, 02:31:06 AM »
Holly wrapping up Tate with her long legs and putting her in a body triangle and a choke for a submission would be epic.  The Tyson vs Douglas comparison does have validity in that Ronda was Tyson like.  Holly is not Buster Douglas.  She is incredibly motivated and now even more confidant in her MMA after the Ronda knock out.  And Cupcake is no Evander. 

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Re: UFC197 Miesha Tate v. Holly Holm Predictions
« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2016, 07:22:54 PM »
If Tate couldn't beat Zingano, I don't see how she can beat Holm.

Styles make fights. Zingano is the same style of fighter as Miesha, just with better endurance. Holm is a completely different style. Let's not forget that Holm was struggling with nobodies before the spectacular Rousey KO. She's not that good.
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