[Keith Stat]

Hey all!

I thought it might be a fun idea to have a general thread about professionally produced real catfight videos. For example, I'm talking about producers like Suitefights, Phat Pharrahs, Catz Review, East Coast Cats, Tilly Town, etc. (I sincerely apologize for anyone I left out, hopefully this thread helps me learn more about them!). Many of the girls have fought for multiple producers so there is often plenty of overlap with the catfights. This isn't intended to be the "official" thread for any of the fights and I hope producers/fans create more focused threads on the matchups that have been announced. Think of this as more a general hub that is a way to communicate news/rumors, recommendations, suggestions for the producers, dream matchups and whatever else. Basically, a thread of the stuff that isn't important enough to have its own thread at this time.

With that said, here's some news I picked up on to start things off:

SUITEFIGHTS has announced that Nikki is making her well-anticipated return in June!



And just last night he announced a new girl, Zamra, who might be her opponent.



We saw how it went for Mila when she went to "welcome" the newbie, let's see if Zamra can similarly turn the tables. That matchup isn't official and no idea if there's anything coming up sooner than that or if other girls are involved in that event in June, but it's always nice to have a Suitefights fight to look forward to! Mila has also said that she looks forward to a rematch with Nikki if that can ever bet set up.

Also, Tilly just announced a new fight!



Anyone else heard any news? Anyone have any recent fights they'd strongly recommend?

[steez]

Good idea for the thread!  I can only check suitefight's instagram so much to check for updates.  I'm also glad to see a new fighter coming up.  Though there are a lot of requests for past favorites, new fighters keep things fresh I think. 

Since you mentioned Tilly, I haven't seen any reviews of her recent fights on here.  Are they worth purchasing?

[pinner45]

Suitefights, I trust because I am pleased, with one exception (the latest one) with great matches . Intensity, great ladies, and Steve to call the rules, with input from the ladies. Not to mention Steve's video angles, and superior video quality .Tilly's site promises the really good ladies, Tilly and Zambo Goddess are two of my favorites, but from what I have heard, Tilly/s matches are in a small area (room) with little area to maneuver and the action is not really very intense. I hope things get better because it would be great to have more than one producer who can deliver the goods. East Coast cats, Freshfite, AMC and some Catz Review are getting my money for now. Unfortunately, a former favorite, Sarah Brook has gone in other directions. Sad, she was once so good.I bought all of her vids at one time and she was my #2 favorite behind Mira Shiver

[Keith Stat]

Good idea for the thread!  I can only check suitefight's instagram so much to check for updates.  I'm also glad to see a new fighter coming up.  Though there are a lot of requests for past favorites, new fighters keep things fresh I think. 

Since you mentioned Tilly, I haven't seen any reviews of her recent fights on here.  Are they worth purchasing?

That was actually one of the reasons I created this thread. I also haven't purchased anything from TIlly yet. Mostly because I purchased a bunch of videos from Sarah and each time I was let down including Sarah vs Tilly. So, maybe unfairly, I've been taking a wait and see approach with Tilly. On the other hand, I enjoyed Tilly/Mira from Suitefights and Tilly/Molly from East Coast Cats.

[Keith Stat]

Great news! Zamra vs. Nikki is official according to Suitefights' Instagram for June (https://www.instagram.com/suitefights/).

And yeah, Mila vs Persi won't go down as one of my favorites as well, but that's not to say I was disappointed by Suitefights' effort. He was upfront about the rules before the fight and it was what it was. Not a total dud, but not in the same caliber as Nikki/Mila. Unscripted and real catfights with novices have a super high variable opportunity to either be a dud or a classic. It's one of those things that you never know what you're going to get until the moment comes and we gotta be supportive of the few producers willing to consistently take that risk. I mentioned this in a earlier thread, but if you would have told me Jess/Mira 2 would be a bonafide classic and my all-time favorite catfight after the one-sided beatdown that was Jess/Mira 1, I would have thought you were insane. But girls that get "it" and want to stick with it and make some money/fans can improve dramatically after just getting some experience. Also, I've been mostly underwhelmed with most of Mila's matches (think I've bought every single one of them) because of her usual restrictive rule set, but she showed me something in being open to allowing face-slapping (a HUGE plus for me in catfights) and wanting a rematch with Nikki after their first match. Thought she might just take her ball and go home after being slapped silly, but she didn't! Also, Suitefights mentioned that it was Persi who didn't allow face-slapping which unfortunately meant Mila reverted to her past matches tactics where she just dominates rookies in unspectacular fashion. Like I said, face-slapping is a GIANT plus for me in catfights (opens up the matches/techniques and adds intensity) and I'll buy them basically 100% of the time if that is advertised.

To change the subject a bit, I'd like to talk about what I believe from a production standpoint to be the best catfight ever produced (not the actual fight, but everything around the fight). That catfight would be Nikki vs Mila.

+ Video starts out with interviews of both girls dressed up fancy and looking sexy along with good questions asked.
+ After the interviews, Suitefights' title screen flashes with some music playing along with a brief BTS of the girls getting ready and being sexy along with a camera dedicated to them stripping off their robes (in many fights a camera isn't dedicated to each girl for this) along with their stats. Following that, rules are clearly explained along with a camera dedicated to each girl during the staredown. This really builds the anticipation and the intensity of the fight.
+ Multiple camera angles and great camera work are giant plusses as well. Feel so lucky watching these in 1080p and 4k after years of 360p videos.
-  One negative would be the lack of a post-fight interview. This honestly doesn't annoy me as much as probably other people, but sometimes the girls say something interesting.
- This is really nitpicky, but instead of the girls stripping off just their robes, I'd prefer if they stripped off the clothes they were interviewed in. Jess/Mira 2 did that. It's MUCH sexier seeing a girl take off her heels/cocktail dress down to a thong than just taking off a robe. Not sure if Jess/Mira were staring eachother down as they did this (it appeared that way), but man that added some tension and excitement to the fight in my opinion.

Related to that: my favorite Suitefights girl introduction ever is easily Mira in Mira/Rosalee. Hah, Mira is sexy as hell and her being cool with a camera zoomed in on her in a thong while walking up the stairs to meet her opponent is just is one of my favorite Suitefights moments ever.

[Tap Her Out]

Thanks Stat! A newsreel is a nice touch for real fight fans. One has to sift through alot of tweets and posts in order to get a preview of coming fights. I hope this section stays because the custom and fantasy knobs seem to dominate here.

Thanks for the effort and hope it continues.

Tap

[Goodluck]

Good thread idea, I too am excited for suitefights upcoming bout and him continuing to produce.  I will also give kudos to East Coast for producing more matches, I hope the matches include more non models, but good looking women in the future.  Also, I think https://www.clips4sale.com/studio/XXXXXX/16931948/It%27s+been+a+while+but+here+is+a+short+but+rough+fight+with+interviews.+They+both+broke+some+fight+rules is a match most would like.  Fresh Fite is also great because like ECNWC's Delta Tiger videos, they have a gym that gets women interested in exercise and matches that are a little more slanted toward innocent workouts than flat out videos.

Not everyone will like the same thing, I don't mind nudity, but I can get nudity anywhere, I am more interested in intensity.  Where does that come from?  Often, with ECNWC you had girlfriends or wives having matches in front of their guys, which produced some amazing matches.  I went out and dated and found a girl to do that and I keep trying, I wish more would do this, after all these years doesn't someone who reads the forum have another Jenn or something out there they are dating?  Also, these days, there are so many mma women that do their first match because their guy is an mma guy. On top of that I posted about the charity mma events in England where girls are getting involved with training and doing an mma match.  The atmosphere of boxing gyms and mma gyms for the general public should translate into more freshfite type situations where we could have a producer make matches that are not nude, probably pretty easily.  It seems we are on the brink of more combat in general, I also posted about the mma event in China that was pop stars and models training then fighting for the tv show.  If only ECNWC was still going, would be nice to have that money out there in addition to what is being produced.  Basically, at least the idea is out there for women to compete physically and more and more girls that are just ring girls or waitresses etc. are trying it out, it is much more of a small jump from that kind of experience to making a video some of us are interested in than it was in the Delta Tiger days when the women may have never trained for anything close to this.  Does that make sense?  Any comments are welcome. 

[pinner45]

Goodluck's statement about intensity is what really stands out for me. Intensity is #1. Everything else is secondary to me.

So much of what is sold today as "competitive" is not intensity. It means that people are rolling around maybe pretending to slap the other person,  or grunting and groaning, but

you can look at it for about 30 seconds usually and you know how it is is going to go. Goodluck's companies are the same basic ones that I favor. ECNWC. Miss them. Many unreleased tapes which

many of us would love to buy.

[Keith Stat]

Good thread idea, I too am excited for suitefights upcoming bout and him continuing to produce.  I will also give kudos to East Coast for producing more matches, I hope the matches include more non models, but good looking women in the future.  Also, I think https://www.clips4sale.com/studio/XXXXXX/16931948/It%27s+been+a+while+but+here+is+a+short+but+rough+fight+with+interviews.+They+both+broke+some+fight+rules is a match most would like.  Fresh Fite is also great because like ECNWC's Delta Tiger videos, they have a gym that gets women interested in exercise and matches that are a little more slanted toward innocent workouts than flat out videos.

Not everyone will like the same thing, I don't mind nudity, but I can get nudity anywhere, I am more interested in intensity.  Where does that come from?  Often, with ECNWC you had girlfriends or wives having matches in front of their guys, which produced some amazing matches.  I went out and dated and found a girl to do that and I keep trying, I wish more would do this, after all these years doesn't someone who reads the forum have another Jenn or something out there they are dating?  Also, these days, there are so many mma women that do their first match because their guy is an mma guy. On top of that I posted about the charity mma events in England where girls are getting involved with training and doing an mma match.  The atmosphere of boxing gyms and mma gyms for the general public should translate into more freshfite type situations where we could have a producer make matches that are not nude, probably pretty easily.  It seems we are on the brink of more combat in general, I also posted about the mma event in China that was pop stars and models training then fighting for the tv show.  If only ECNWC was still going, would be nice to have that money out there in addition to what is being produced.  Basically, at least the idea is out there for women to compete physically and more and more girls that are just ring girls or waitresses etc. are trying it out, it is much more of a small jump from that kind of experience to making a video some of us are interested in than it was in the Delta Tiger days when the women may have never trained for anything close to this.  Does that make sense?  Any comments are welcome.

Cool, never heard about the fight that you suggested. I'll plan to check it out soon.

Saying that, that video reminded me of one of the biggest things that annoys me about the Clips4sale catfight market. That being the inconsistent and dreadful use of previews for many of their fights. So many of the previews are just a single image (like this one), a gif or a 10-second or so video that does little more than show the title screen. Suitefights, to their credit, usually has a 30-second or so trailer that does a decent job of representing what you are about to buy. It just sucks as someone who has been burned wayyy too many times on buying fights advertised as "real" only to find out it is not that at all.

And about the nudity in catfights - If I had a choice between a good intense fully-clothed fight or a nude way less intense fight, I'd choose the more intense clothed fight every single time. That being said, I'll take a nude/partially nude intense catfight over the other two options every single time!

Also, it's nuts that there doesn't seem to be a way to buy ECNWC. He's sitting on a mint not offering them for sale and it's a true bummer that there's unreleased tapes we'll likely never see. If he's not active anymore (that certainly seems to be the case), it's crazy he hasn't sold his catalog of fights.

[MODELSWRESTLING]

I also posted about the mma event in China that was pop stars and models training then fighting for the tv show.

Hello Goodluck,

Where can we find some détails about that tv show in China?

[Goodluck]

I also posted about the mma event in China that was pop stars and models training then fighting for the tv show.

Hello Goodluck,

Where can we find some détails about that tv show in China?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAA-ZFibVJo&t=2004s

More episodes should be related to this video.

Not fake at all.

http://www.nextmag.com.tw/realtimenews/news/35965241

Here is the final of season 2

https://allvideos.me/index.php?a=watch/-wqNYk9rWBM/viutv-g-12-ep16-end

Cheesy reality show episode...

https://allvideos.me/index.php?a=watch/aVDeNlxFsBw/viutv-g-12-ep11

Why don't we have this in the US?  They stole our reality show format haha

[pinner45]

Bob, the guy who was ECNWC, has passed away according to some posts I have read. I contacted him a few times over the years and then, about 2 years ago he stopped responding. If anyone here could corroborate this, maybe Steve Grassland, it would clear up some unanswered questions.

[Goodluck]

Maybe you all would like an older one, broadway vs. polish warrior.... https://www.clips4sale.com/studio/33405/2869775/FW09-Broadway+vs+Polish+Warrior%3A+Complete+Video

Pandora in her last freshfite, I like it because I think she looks at the camera man as to say, is she really allowed to pull my hair this hard?  http://freshfite.com/product/ffv100/   (look for coupon codes on facebook)

ECC, I think Tracy v. Alex is one of their best, might be unknown to newcomers....  http://www.eastcoastcats.com/ECC43prev/ECC43.htm

All the suitefights, of course.

[MaskedBunny]

Bob, the guy who was ECNWC, has passed away according to some posts I have read. I contacted him a few times over the years and then, about 2 years ago he stopped responding. If anyone here could corroborate this, maybe Steve Grassland, it would clear up some unanswered questions.

Out of curiosity, where was Bob and ECNWC based at? The only reason I ask is because ironically, I knew a guy named Bob who died about 2 years ago from cancer.

[GrasslandProductions]

Bob, the guy who was ECNWC, has passed away according to some posts I have read. I contacted him a few times over the years and then, about 2 years ago he stopped responding. If anyone here could corroborate this, maybe Steve Grassland, it would clear up some unanswered questions.

Out of curiosity, where was Bob and ECNWC based at? The only reason I ask is because ironically, I knew a guy named Bob who died about 2 years ago from cancer.

I think they were Virginia based from what I recall?

Bob had a massive stroke within the last couple of years.   

As of a few weeks ago, he was still alive and online. I’m assuming he is still alive.

I doubt he will ever produce again, but reaching out to him on email or Fetlife I’m sure would make him feel good. He might not be able to respond quickly or at all.

I doubt he will ever sell his stuff online or via download. Once he makes up his mind about something, it’s set. If you have ever met him in person, you would understand this.

I’ll write about him at length sometime, but not tonight.

He is a true pioneer in this fetish and I am sure he loves the work of Suitefights.