I will agree that neither are particularly good to experience. I as a female fight lover will argue that it is much more stimulating and sexy watching forms of female versus female humiliation than violence. I find nothing hot and sexy about one girl seriously hurting another girl. Punching, broken bones and noses and real pain should be a male only domain. I don't want to see that, or black eyes, missing teeth, none of that. I want to see the more sensual side of female combat. They can still be competitive with each other, and still desperately want to win, but it should be in sexy body to body combat. Breast smothering, full body pins, leg scissors, face sitting, butt smothers, foot smothers, leg chokes, those types of maneuvers, where one woman can prove she is the better woman over the other! Her breasts are bigger and better, her butt is sexier, her legs are stronger and more beautiful, her feet are more attractive and worthy of worship! That stuff is hot! Nobody gets too beaten up physically, but maybe their ego takes a beating! Now these things can be very humiliating, but to me they are not violence, and there lies the difference. I think the humiliation factor adds to the competition and does add excitement. Catfighting for women is largely competition, and for men it is all sex! The only thing I will give into is a little hair pulling and slapping, but nothing too extreme. So I say lets try and keep the real violence out of the catfights, but by all means leave the humiliation elements in! DOES THIS MAKE SENSE TO YOU? WHAT DO YOU THINK, AND WHY DO YOU THINK THAT WAY?