Oh, dear. Sketch, I saw your post just as I was getting ready to chat with a hot babe in Russia. I decided to pay attention to her first. She's 32, BTW -- just wanted to get that out there.
I'll start with the ending first. Perez Hilton is a well-known idiot. By posting a picture of Miley's crotch, he is creating child porn by Federal law. This is why people who do any work in the modeling world need to know the law, because in the USA, you can create child porn
by accident. Specifically, the section of the law Hilton apparently violated is known as, "Lascivious exhibition of the genitals or pubic area of any person." What this basically comes down to is a close-up crotch shot. It's important to remember also that the word "nudity" is not mentioned in American child porn law. On the one hand, this means that any underage minor can pose nude so long as the images or video do not constitute pornography, though very few people will actually do such work. It also means that a minor
does not have to be nude for a crotch shot to be illegal. Thus, if a photographer was taking pictures of a teen for a swimsuit catalog, and for some reason decided to focus on their crotch to highlight the way the suit looked, that photographer would be in legal danger. Anyway, I hope Perez got the shit scared out of him. He's just a scum-sucking jagoff. And i hope all the jagoff paparazzi who seek to shoot pics at certain angles to make Miley, or any other teen girl in Hollywood, look like a slut, will be chastened as well.
As to my "rationalization," this is the endless refrain of social norms enforcers, i.e., the position of the social norms enforcer is unassailably correct, which in terms of logical debate is known as presupposition, and therefore the position of the opposing party is a rationalization. Just the same, what I said was true. It has nothing to do with what
you consider appropriate. That is your business. I said I disagree with you. I was simply making the case that a mere "Who will win" catfight poll is no big deal, in the USA or anywhere, whether it contains "half naked" bikini pics of minors or not. If people started popping off with crazed sex fantasies about said minors, you'd find me edging more to your side. There are questions of degree.
Your position still looks context-specific to me; to wit, this is a forum where people share catfight fantasies and fap over what they see and what they read and so on. I understand that. I still say that a poll with minors is no big deal. We can agree that vigilance is needed while we disagree that such polls need to be squelched entirely.
As to the possibility that Feds are here looking for child porn traders, I think they have much more fertile ground to explore. Despite what we're told, there isn't that much child porn out there. It is not "the fastest growing business on the internet," it is not a "$20 - $30 billion a year industry," and there is no way on earth that "up to 20 percent of all porn on the internet is child porn." These are all myths created to fuel the hysteria which leads to, among other things, this conversation, but more importantly, to changes in laws that will restrict our freedom, and basically for nothing. The most recent material I've read quoting actual Feds indicates that most child porn is now created by a small number of people for a few hundred thousand buyers using weird, tricky internet peer to peer networks. The biggest bust I've read about described an operation worth $177 million, which is a far cry from $20 billion. I know where that $20 billion number comes from, and it was made up on the basis of zero evidence, and if you'd like, I can track that info down for you. In any case, Feds are far more interested in preteen material than teen stuff, and specifically, their greatest interest is in drastic, violent abuse, including live webcam shows, and I support them completely in this endeavor. Even with an extra $1 billion in new funding, they lack the resources to tackle each and every violation, as noted in this article;
http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-9945915-7.htmlQuote from article; ". . . investigators have identified more than 600,000 unique computers allegedly trafficking in child pornography and traced them to the United States. But Biden and others have voiced dismay that they're only equipped with the resources to investigate about 2 percent of those potential cases."
Will anyone worry about teens in catfight polls here?
As to the issue of my posts here being made public -- what, is someone planning to do that? Everyone here is, to some degree or another, a "sexually unusual person," by which I mean that having a catfight kink would be considered weird, even disgusting by a significant percentage of people, so odds are that no one here wants to share their posts with friends, family or coworkers. Some, such as detailed foot fantasies, might seem merely hilarious to many people, while others discussing such horrific violence as biting off nipples and clawing clits to shreds, would be viewed more seriously. What I've said about Miley here is nothing I'm ashamed of or worried about. I have difficulty imagining the local newspaper stopping the presses for the big scoop,
"CrashCorrigan, also known as <my real name> talked about half-naked Miley Cyrus and Selena Gomez on a disgusting internet kinky sex forum devoted to violence against women and girls. County Sheriff <his real name>, a lead investigator working with the FBI, CIA and Interpol, stated, 'The filth on this forum was unbelievable, and it disgusts me to know that the filthiest filthster of them all, CrashCorrigan, also known as <my real name> lives in our fair city, but not for long. We are confident that we'll obtain a conviction and send Mr. Corrigan downstate to the prison where he belongs.'"Just think, last year Jamie Foxx dogged Miley on his radio show, talking about how she'd give people chlamydia, and a female comic on the show suggested that Miley should do a sex tape with her father. So far as I'm concerned, that
definitely crossed the line, yet none of these comics ended up in jail, but at least Billy Ray shamed Jamie to the point where Jamie apologized on national TV. And as for the demure TMZ, they had no hesitation in putting up Miley's "lap dance" video taken when she was 16, did they?
Bottom line, Sketch, I think you're a cool guy and fun to read, but I stand in opposition to your restrictive definition of what's appropriate. I agitate for a change in the social norms, which are relative to their times in any case. People don't change, but social norms do. And if my posts on this forum become public, I guess I'll have to show at least as much guts as Miley did when she was 15 and continued her relationship with 20 year old Justin Gaston in spite of heavy press criticism that it was, uhm, inappropriate.
