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are Asians just weaker than other girls?

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Offline CrashCorrigan

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Re: are Asians just weaker than other girls?
« Reply #15 on: July 26, 2010, 01:35:47 PM »
On the Robin/Jasae match, I get you.  '88-'91 was after my AC time, so that's why I didn't see it.

Robin would have been interesting in Manila.  I'm not sure mere hairpulling would have been enough to trump her wrestling skills and raw strength.  That is, unless the rules changed for AC by that time and more extreme tactics were allowed.

I'm not familiar with this Candy, but I like the sound of her.  I just hope that someone, someday, takes some blond beauties to Manila, etc., and we'll see what happens.  ;)

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Re: are Asians just weaker than other girls?
« Reply #16 on: July 26, 2010, 02:48:28 PM »
    Bruce,  Please go back and read the orginal Question... are Asians just weaker than other girls?
  That question in it's self is thinking in racial terms, so yes my answer is going to be in racial terms as you say. Why am I being singled out?
   I love asian women and have dated many, I've also dated hot Blonds that I loved. So really don't want one race to win over the other, but do enjoy seeing 2 women from different Cultural backgrounds meet on the mat. Nothing gets me going more then to see a fighter fly from one country to another and test herself, having a little national pride on the line.
   I do not agree 100% with what you shoot, but do not attack your fetishs. Some people would question you on why the winner of a Wrestling match must use a dildo on loser, Who are you to question me?
   I think should go back and read what has been writen ealier and then post a message people would enjoy to reading and not just a personal attack.



I had read every post in the thread. Had you? If you had you might have chosen to express your thoughts about individuals, not as a generalization about the races. Or at least you should have expected me to come back at you for having done so after all the thread up till now was about the foolishness and inanity of categorizing people that way. If so you might also have phrased your original answer in non-racial terms, as you did the second time through, where it is precise and valuable rather than vague and useless. You might thank me for enabling you to clarify your thinking around non-racial lines. It dramatically improved your contribution to the thread.
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Re: are Asians just weaker than other girls?
« Reply #17 on: July 26, 2010, 03:35:57 PM »
  Bruce,  Please get off you high horse... You use race as a selling point yourself...  Many of your matches are sold as Asian Vs Blond or Black Vs White matches.
   You are just as guilty as me in thinking in racial terms for using the womens race as a selling point.
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Re: are Asians just weaker than other girls?
« Reply #18 on: July 26, 2010, 04:26:36 PM »
    Joanne,  Sorry to hear you lost your match in NYC, was following the build up to your second match on Myspace. 
  The asian girl in NYC shows that some asian fighters think of Blond fighters as being weaker fighters. She has posted all over her Myspace that Blond girls are weak and can not beat her. What did she do in the fight to make you now afraid of her? What fighters would you compare her with in skill? How do you think she would do if fought at one of the DWW events?
  It's true Dragonlily has beat many girls in Ultmite Surrender, but think that a top European fighter like Xana would have little trouble beating the same girls. If she fought Xana today, I think she would stand little chance to beat her.

  Crash,  Robin post 1995 would be to strong and skilled for the asian conn girls to stand a chance vs her, but Robin pre- 1995 would have trouble dealing with a Asian Conn girls that would  drag her down by the hair and most likely slapping her silly into submission.
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Re: are Asians just weaker than other girls?
« Reply #19 on: July 26, 2010, 04:37:36 PM »
  Bruce,  Please get off you high horse... You use race as a selling point yourself...  Many of your matches are sold as Asian Vs Blond or Black Vs White matches.
   You are just as guilty as me in thinking in racial terms for using the womens race as a selling point.


Lqqking my friend,

I believe what you meant to say was "thank you for being one of the very few producers in North America to feature so many interracial matches over the years".

There is obviously a huge difference between promoting a match as being between women of different racial backgrounds and generalizing about the relative fighting characteristics of the different races. Do people like to see women of different races fight? Many do, so what is wrong with promoting an interracial match as being interracial?

I don't care if customers buy my content because they want to see their personal biases played out for them on video. That is not what they get when the work is unscripted. Its simply one woman against another. But I have never promoted a match as being between of stereotypes of the races. If you like to watch women of European descent vs. those of African, Latin-American, or Asian descent, hell yes! But if you want a perpetration of stereotypical thinking that supports your own biases, its pretty clear that we don't cater to your desires. 

A lot of us, me included, enjoy watch women of all different types do battle and we can appreciate it on whatever personal level we want to. But two things will always get me to react: generalizing about races due to the behavior or actions of individuals, and illegal pirating of content (any one's content).
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Re: are Asians just weaker than other girls?
« Reply #20 on: July 27, 2010, 03:41:16 AM »
   perpetration of stereotypical thinking that supports your own biases????? Please tell me what I've said on this board that fits that statment. Please copy and paste the statement from me that really pissed you off?

 




 
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Re: are Asians just weaker than other girls?
« Reply #21 on: July 27, 2010, 04:11:39 AM »
   perpetration of stereotypical thinking that supports your own biases????? Please tell me what I've said on this board that fits that statment. Please copy and paste the statement from me that really pissed you off?




 

I am not and have not been pissed off. Its not about you or me. The title of the thread is offensive because it tries to phrase the entire discussion in racial terms. Your post stating that Dragonlily had lost to several White wrestlers at US follows exactly that mentality. Why couldn't you have stated she lost to several of the top wrestlers at US when you were trying to make the point that she would not fare so well against the best European wrestlers? When you re-phrased, naming specific wrestlers you think are better, you elevated the discussion above the narrow, mindless "Are Asians weaker...?" cast the originator intended.

No one else contributing to the thread has done so in the terms the originator intended; its all been about specific wrestlers or companies and their experiences. That makes a good thread IMHO.

Relax I am not your enemy and I am not upset with you or anyone else. We're all better served when we reject generalizations and deal with specifics, wouldn't you agree?
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Re: are Asians just weaker than other girls?
« Reply #22 on: July 27, 2010, 04:58:46 AM »
On the Robin/Jasae match, I get you.  '88-'91 was after my AC time, so that's why I didn't see it.

Robin would have been interesting in Manila.  I'm not sure mere hairpulling would have been enough to trump her wrestling skills and raw strength.  That is, unless the rules changed for AC by that time and more extreme tactics were allowed.

I'm not familiar with this Candy, but I like the sound of her.  I just hope that someone, someday, takes some blond beauties to Manila, etc., and we'll see what happens.  ;)

Not to get off topic (even though I am), Candi actually has a match on Ringmaster girls which is pretty good and seems pretty realistic to me (as do most of their matches).  I'd recommend it.  Her California Surpreme matches are great too, I have one or two that are amazing.

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Re: are Asians just weaker than other girls?
« Reply #23 on: July 28, 2010, 03:08:08 AM »
   SketchArtiste...  Are you talking about anything I wrote? If Yes, Please let me know what, so can defend myself.  If not me, should let the other person know, so they can respond.
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Re: are Asians just weaker than other girls?
« Reply #24 on: July 28, 2010, 03:15:42 AM »
   Bruce... please explain from what you have read from my posts that make you write "perpetration of stereotypical thinking that supports your own biases, its pretty clear that we don't cater to your desires". 

   What are my biases?
   What stereotypical thinking have I writen?


   
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Re: are Asians just weaker than other girls?
« Reply #25 on: July 28, 2010, 03:49:43 AM »
SketchArtiste...   Bruce is directly writing about me. I have no idea were he gets his ideas about my thinking and would love for him to point them out.
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Re: are Asians just weaker than other girls?
« Reply #26 on: July 28, 2010, 06:57:16 AM »
SketchArtiste...   Bruce is directly writing about me. I have no idea were he gets his ideas about my thinking and would love for him to point them out.

LQQK,

In this entire thread I made exactly one statement to you, and NONE about you. I apologize for the inadequacies of my language skills but again, its not about you. Please let it go.
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Re: are Asians just weaker than other girls?
« Reply #27 on: July 31, 2010, 09:13:47 PM »
Interesting observations, Lauren.  We might view things exactly the opposite in the States, perhaps because we're only now beginning to see a real influx of Indian and Pakistani people.  Our empire never included them, whereas for you Brits, India was "The Jewel In The Crown."  But I was lucky to grow up in a multiracial neighborhood in Chicago, and back in those days, when I hunted for food with a tribe of Cro-Magnons, it was understood that the hottest girl at our school was Ranjaka Patel.  She was like a runway model.  But I never saw an Indian girl in a fight, and never thought of them as tough.  By contrast, we had several Japanese girls with attitude.  Never saw them fight, either, but I always figured they'd be toughies, in part because most of them had fairly thick, muscular legs.

It should be said that I've also been to Sasebo, Japan, and the women distinguished themselves as, on average, the tiniest I had ever seen, equivalent in height to a smallish American 12 year old girl.  Seriously, I was at a mall and I towered over all of them.  Japanese-American girls were so much bigger.  Sure, some of the Japanese women were what I'd call average-sized, but the overall smallness was remarkable, maybe 3 inches shorter than American women, on average.  Now that would be a good place to look for an easy win.  ;)   

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Re: are Asians just weaker than other girls?
« Reply #28 on: August 01, 2010, 07:17:27 AM »
   The Catfighting and Female Fight sceen in Japan is hard the figure out...
  They Dominate the Light to mid Weight Roman-Greco Wrestling hands down, with 1 girl that has never lost a match. They also pruduced a number of Champ Boxers.

  Their Catfighters and Submssion Wresters are more untrained model types. Girly sexy matches and not trained Top competitive.

  They pruduce some of the best Big Breasted matches, far better then Napali.
  The Catfights have more Breast and crotch attacks then Western countries. I've heard the Underground sceen is very intence with the use of nails, but have never seen the matches myself.
   My dream would be to see a untrained Big Breasted Western fighter fight Competitive in Japan.

  I'd love to learn more info on the Japanese sceen. Is there a Japanese DWW? That would be hot!!!!

  As for Indian Catfighters... There seems to be many Stories and Polls on this site that have Indian fighters, also Bollywood loves a good catfight sceen.  I think India is were the USA was in the 1960's with the Catfight and Wrestling fetish. It's in Art, Stories, and Movies. Not in the open for real live matches yet.
  It will be interesting to see how fast the Catfight world grows in India with Computers, compared to USA during 70's thru 80's with no computers. Bet we will see some great stuff coming out of India 10 years from now.

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Re: are Asians just weaker than other girls?
« Reply #29 on: November 19, 2010, 08:18:05 AM »
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