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are Asians just weaker than other girls?

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Offline ravenman

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are Asians just weaker than other girls?
« on: July 16, 2010, 09:35:17 AM »
   I enjoy watching catfight videos with an asian girl vs a non-asian girl (usually a caucasian), but most of these fights, scripted or real, end up with the non-asian girl winning, beating the asian girl up badly.
   Why do the makers of the videos tend to make the white girl win? is it because the audience is mainly white?? or is it simply because asians are just inferior to their Western counterparts when it comes to combat??
what are your thoughts about this?


**when i say 'asian', i am talking about the girls from East Asia (Japan, China, South Korea, around there.) Cuz i know those Southeastern Asians, the Vietnamese etc., are really badass and can fight hard.

***also im talking about amateur girls fighting. not girls who are specially trained in martial arts and such. im comparing just the average normal white girl against the average normal asian girl.


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Offline LQQKING4CATFIGHTER

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Re: are Asians just weaker than other girls?
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2010, 05:05:37 PM »
  I love Asian Vs Blond competitive matches myself. From my video collection, would say asian win about 50% of time and are good real match-up for Blond white fighters.
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Re: are Asians just weaker than other girls?
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2010, 09:08:37 PM »
   I enjoy watching catfight videos with an asian girl vs a non-asian girl (usually a caucasian), but most of these fights, scripted or real, end up with the non-asian girl winning, beating the asian girl up badly.
   Why do the makers of the videos tend to make the white girl win? is it because the audience is mainly white?? or is it simply because asians are just inferior to their Western counterparts when it comes to combat??
what are your thoughts about this?


**when i say 'asian', i am talking about the girls from East Asia (Japan, China, South Korea, around there.) Cuz i know those Southeastern Asians, the Vietnamese etc., are really badass and can fight hard.

***also im talking about amateur girls fighting. not girls who are specially trained in martial arts and such. im comparing just the average normal white girl against the average normal asian girl.


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Re: are Asians just weaker than other girls?
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2010, 10:10:03 PM »
the average normal white girl probably outweighs the normal asian girl by 10-15 lbs.  and is taller by a few inches.  so, if their determination and experience is the same, the bigger person will win more often than not.

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Offline MaskedBunny

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Re: are Asians just weaker than other girls?
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2010, 05:07:04 AM »
Honestly, I can't say I've seen too many asians in real catfights.  They seem to stick to scripted (or not get into it at all).  However, I can think of a few.

Kyla Luciano was amazingly skilled at wrestling.  She even beat Gia Primo a few times.

Kim and Seven from Carolina Catfights have also won a lot of matches.  Kim has had a lot of matches where she dominates in Carolina Catfights.  She also had a few matches for SouthernBelles (which is real).  Seven wasn't around long, but she did pretty good.  And while some people could argue CC is fake (looks pretty real to me, but who knows), it would still be showing asian women winning in scripted matches.

I'm also sure Bruce could recommend a few Asian women from the Academy over the years that kicked major ass as I've seen a few in some of his videos.

If you want to see scripted wrestling with Asian girls winning, check out Nicole Oring (I probably spelled that wrong).  She works scripted matches and is usually portrayed as a badass.  Kickass girls also have a few asian girls that win a lot too.

The issue seems to be though that Asian girls are in the minority with female wrestling.  Or they don't do videos a lot.  And as mentioned, when they do and are scripted to lose, it's probably due to old fantasies.  Though it is changing. 

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Re: are Asians just weaker than other girls?
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2010, 11:57:30 AM »
Probably the biggest reason you don't see many Asian women in catfight videos against white girls is -- there aren't that many Asian women in America.  In big cities and some small ones it may seem like there's lots of Asians, but in total numbers there aren't that many.  If Asians, per capita, got into catfighting at the same rate as white women, you might expect the kind of numbers you actually see in American productions.  It's even possible that Asians are overrepresented according to their share of the population.

We might ask ourselves why we don't see more black and Hispanic women in catfight videos, since they vastly outnumber Asians in America.  I Wikied US Population stats, and America has 228 million White people, 47 million Hispanic, 37.6 million Blacks, and 13.4 million Asians.

It's entirely possible that Hispanics and Blacks, culturally, just don't see a lot of catfight videos and thus have no idea of this employment opportunity.

The Philippines has long been the best source for real fights with hot Asian babes.  Way back in the Mesozoic era, I used to implore Mike, of Asian Connection, to take a blond American over there and get her in some matches.  I even offered to put up money, as did others, but it never happened.  Instead, he matched the famous Swedish Tina against his wife, Cristy in the USA, and that was a fun match, though not really fair, given Tina's experience.  Tina won the bout, but Cristy put up a good scrap.  Tina might have lost in Manila against the likes of Lonnie or Janeth.

FWIW, years ago I did a survey of real matches pitting White against Asian.  At first, white girls had a big lead, but when I was finished, it ended up 50-50.  In my town there's a lot of tough-looking -- and very hot -- Hmong girls who would be no easy pickings for any white girl.

In the end, it all comes down to the individuals.  I just happen to love the way blonds and Asians look in combat.   

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Re: are Asians just weaker than other girls?
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2010, 02:05:02 AM »
If so, then why does Dragonlily dominate all the time in Ultimate Surrender?

Some of the best female wrestlers come from Japan and they could easily take out the bimbos of the WWE.

The fact that the most trained individuals can match up with other trained individuals demonstrates that even at an average level, they should be equal.  Like others have said, there aren't many Asians in the states and you're only seeing a small sample against a group who make up the majority of the country.

Besides, race has nothing to do with the skill of the fighter.

But the topic brings up something interesting.  I do wish there were more Asian vs. other races fights.  These are my favorite type of match ups.

I wonder if somewhere in Japan or China, there's a reversed question of the same one asked.

It makes me wonder if there's a whole other load of data and sources that have yet to be uncovered because of language/national barriers.
« Last Edit: July 24, 2010, 02:07:40 AM by LeeRoyCrane »

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Re: are Asians just weaker than other girls?
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2010, 02:13:41 AM »
If so, then why does Dragonlily dominate all the time in Ultimate Surrender?

I wonder if somewhere in Japan or China, there's a reversed question of the same one asked.

It makes me wonder if there's a whole other load of data and sources that have yet to be uncovered because of language/national barriers.

I find it unlikely that there is a lot of material available under the Chinese domains but here is just one "portal" maintained by a Japanese national with some Japanese links.

http://www.femfight2006jp.com/home.php
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Re: are Asians just weaker than other girls?
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2010, 07:57:38 AM »
   Dragonlily is a great fighter, but has lost to some of the top White fighters over the years. I'd love to see her get more wrestling training and then travel and fight the DWW girls in Europe at a event.
  Who else would sponsor and help pay travel to se it happen? Think Dragonlily would fight DWW style Catfight? How would she do? I think she would win and lose matches. Would take out the new girls, but lose to the top European fighters.
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I'm compelled to concur with you on that last point CC...I saw one of the lamest looking wrestlers drop my dick in the dirt with a hands on T-squeezing wrestling match she had against an Asian woman. I also saw a match featuring Tina vs. Robin where Robin slapped Sweet Tina's "fire nation" slit and completely dominated her...Great Blond vs. Red head match...I'm probably waiting in vain for the Piper Perabo/Jennifer Garner match...neither one of them were as cool and hot as Peta Wilson(?) who starred in the original Femme fatale made-for-SheV spy thriller "La Femme Nikita"...yes- I know it was a movie first... ;-/

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OK, Sketch . . . don't hold your breath waiting for the Piper Perabo/Jennifer Garner throwdown.  I wouldn't mind seeing that one myself.  Peta Wilson has really disappeared, hasn't she?  Haven't heard anything about her in years.  Mike of Asian Connection did a match between Robin and Tina that's in my collection somewhere, but I don't recall any major nudity.  Robin did kick Tina's ass, though.  Did that white vs. asian match you saw happen in person or was it a video?

Here's what we really need -- some rich jagoff in Australia needs to gather some blond, blue-eyed, completely untrained Aussie surfer babes and fly them to Manila to fight a bunch of Filipinas, or Jakarta to fight Indonesian babes, or Tokyo to fight some Japanese gals and save them from bukkake videos.  How many masturbating assholes in diapers do I need to see in this life?  The first one I saw was a thousand too many.  So please, Australia is the only country loaded with hot white babes that's anywhere near the major asian catfight centers.  We need a loaded Aussie fan to get this ideal business up and running!

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Re: are Asians just weaker than other girls?
« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2010, 01:39:28 PM »
   Dragonlily is a great fighter, but has lost to some of the top White fighters over the years. I'd love to see her get more wrestling training and then travel and fight the DWW girls in Europe at a event.
  Who else would sponsor and help pay travel to se it happen? Think Dragonlily would fight DWW style Catfight? How would she do? I think she would win and lose matches. Would take out the new girls, but lose to the top European fighters.

Just the way you phrase your statement demonstrates you can only think of this in racial terms. Why can't you take race out of your thinking of "better" and "worse"? Its great that you find contrasting looks exciting but when will you get out of characterizing people by their ethnicity. I'm sorry but on this level your question doesn't deserve a thoughtful answer.
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Re: are Asians just weaker than other girls?
« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2010, 07:48:54 PM »
   Robin also fought Jaese from Asian Conn in ealry 90's, winner was going to travel and fight in Manila vs the Asian Champ for the World Champ, trip fell thru and never happened. This was early in Robin's carrer and would have been a interesting match for the Asian Conn girls.

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    Bruce,  Please go back and read the orginal Question... are Asians just weaker than other girls?
  That question in it's self is thinking in racial terms, so yes my answer is going to be in racial terms as you say. Why am I being singled out?
   I love asian women and have dated many, I've also dated hot Blonds that I loved. So really don't want one race to win over the other, but do enjoy seeing 2 women from different Cultural backgrounds meet on the mat. Nothing gets me going more then to see a fighter fly from one country to another and test herself, having a little national pride on the line.
   I do not agree 100% with what you shoot, but do not attack your fetishs. Some people would question you on why the winner of a Wrestling match must use a dildo on loser, Who are you to question me?
   I think should go back and read what has been writen ealier and then post a message people would enjoy to reading and not just a personal attack.

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Re: are Asians just weaker than other girls?
« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2010, 10:11:14 PM »
  Robin Vs Jasea match was shoot in LA for Asian Conn

  Did not mean to disrespect Dragonlilly, I've heard she is now training BJJ and will be a top fighter in the future if she sticks with her training.  I'm only saying that she is  today, not in the class of Xana, Antscha, Tyger, or the other top European fighters her size.
   I do think she would do much better Vs the European girls at her skill leavel like Orsi b, Ingrid, Jade from london, or the ASfilm girls, Fightstyle.
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Re: are Asians just weaker than other girls?
« Reply #13 on: July 26, 2010, 10:12:12 AM »
LQQKING4CATFIGHTER  -- IIRC, Jasae was not an Asian Connection fighter, and never did a video for AsianC.  I've never seen the Robin vs. Jasae match.  Mike interviewed Jasae about fighting Janeth in Manila, but as you say, it never happened.  Jasae would have been interesting to some degree, but IMO she was the wrong fighter.  First, she was not blond.  Second, she had fake tits, and I just never dig fake tits.  I always have to do a lot of soul-searching before I buy a video with a fake-boob fighter in it.  Just one fake-boob babe will basically ruin the whole thing for me, so I almost always do that only if it's a blonde/asian thing.  Third, Jasae was a little too skilled.  She almost beat the much larger pro wrestler Candi Divine in a match for Women Warriors, although it has to be said, Candi wasn't much of a catfighter.  She got soundly thumped by the other chick she wrestled.  Anyway, Jasae was probably too much for Janeth or anyone except Lonnie to handle.

Dragonlily vs. the DWW babes is a fabulous idea.  I think she would do very well.  I'm sure Sketch and some others would love to see her in a Trib match over there, too.

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Re: are Asians just weaker than other girls?
« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2010, 10:54:26 AM »
  Mike Sold the Jasea Vs Robin match on his site. Have the match myself. 
  I agree Robin being blond and more natural girl at the time of the shoot 89-91 timeframe, would have been a better fit.
  Mike set up the match as the American asian conn Champ match in LA. Was a good match-up, more wrestling then Catfighting. Jasea had far more training at that time.
  If Robin made the trip, think she would not have been able to deal with the feirce real catfight attacks of the top Asian Conn girls and would have lost the match vs the Manila Champ. She might have out wrestled some of the lesser Asian Conn girls. Would have been interesting. I see Robin more as a wrestler and not Catfighter back then. Now she is BJJ.
  I think a better pick for the trip at that time was Candy the small blond that would fight Santana for California Suprem, she was untrained natural catfighter that loved slapping, hairpulling, and nails and would have had some crazy fights in Manila!!!
  Candy was one of the girls that made  scripted fights close to becoming all out fights.
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