Any and all real life competition has to be discussed for both rules used, safety, and agreed on stakes, a face sit pin and a face sit pin with oral performed are 2 different ends of rule guide, most will agree if they submit winner straddles face for a minute or two , but you as a fighter have to be willing to under go if you lose, I have plenty after a loss and sat up on them get pissed off and blow up, sore loser syndrome