[Renee_CatfightHaven]

Thanks for the compliments guys.  On the MMA subject.  Many of the women that fight in this sport aren't ugly by anyone's standards.

Regardless of looks as far as "standards" go, I respect and admire them all because they're getting to do something that is very exciting.

I admit that when watching the guys I prefer those that are more talented and "kick ass" as opposed to those that spend a lot of time back pedalling and hoping their opponent slips on the mats.

I'll also admit that I enjoying watching Urijah Faber and others for more than one reason as well.

Sincerely,

Renee... 
p.s.  I also understand the difference between the beat down style fighting, street fights and the concern for safety as compared to wrestling / rules catfighting on the mats and customs (whether hard hitting and fast paced or more erotic).

I've been in more than a handful of matches at the Haven though where I've actually been more than willing to step "outside" to finish it but in most of those instances have remained very professional about things hoping that the two of us could hit the mats again because of the action in the match.

For those that got the chance to see my match with Desiree, I was a tad irate in that one on a few occasions, with Dani of late the same and with Adrianne in C-2 and 72 as well.  There were others earlier on where the other persons attitude during live shows really got to me as well.

Anyway, enough of that.  I hope this board thrives just like I hope many, many of the upstart companys do as well.  It's really neat to see the interest in fem fighting grow or should I say become more and more acceted.

Never will it be accepted by those that place them on the pedestals of life or at least they won't admit it openly.  LOL

[norm74]

Hi Renee,

Here’s a quote from your last post:
I'll also admit that I enjoying watching Urijah Faber and others for more than one reason as well.

Shame on you Renee, I think you’re coming over to my way of thinking. LOL

Honestly, I agree with you regarding women’s mma and female atheletes in general. They’re doing something that they find exciting and they train just as hard as the guys do.  For that they deserve our respect. However, while I enjoy watching a couple guys beating the crap out of each other in a cage, I won’t watch 2 women doing that.
Just my opinion.

Catfights are different. I can’t speak for all female fight fans, but, for most of us our passion for catfighting has little to do with an appreciation for a woman’s athletic abilities. It’s all about 2 hot chicks fighting in ways that we fantasize about and if you talk to 100 catfight fans you may get 100 different fantasy scenerios. OR MAYBE A THOUSAND !!!

Most catfight fans are guys and It’s all about satisfying the little guy that hangs around right below our belt. 

Your fights at The Haven are so hot because you’ve avoided the slap & giggle stuff that some of the producers do while at the same time avoiding the blood and broken bones that many of us find annoying. Instead, your producing hard fought, sexy, sweaty, hair pullin, clothes rippin, face slappin, trash talkin, titty twistin, fights. You’ve also managed to find some very sexy women who seem to enjoy fighting and don’t mind showing some skin.

And finally, if you don’t mind me saying so THE HAVEN BOSS WOMAN IS THE SEXIEST OF THEM ALL !!

Thanks again for your opinions Renee

[academybruce]

Hey, Connor, sometimes scantily clad is just as good as fully nekkid.  Leaving something to the imagination never hurts!   

Unfortunately we have to leave the imagination to the producers   zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.....

Nonsense! Every producer out there is a person just like you who gets off on f/f combat and thought they could do something better or different that might have an audience.

You believe the producers are not good enough? Fine! I agree completely! Get together $1,000 and demonstrate that your imagination is better!

[connor]

Hey, Connor, sometimes scantily clad is just as good as fully nekkid.  Leaving something to the imagination never hurts!   

Unfortunately we have to leave the imagination to the producers   zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.....

I am prepared to be awakened.

Nonsense! Every producer out there is a person just like you who gets off on f/f combat and thought they could do something better or different that might have an audience: you are speaking for all the producers, I am not 100% in agreement with your assessment.

You believe the producers are not good enough? Fine! I agree completely! Get together $1,000 and demonstrate that your imagination is better!

Finally, you agree with me, but you have undervalued my imagination.

From where does this sensitivity you have shown stem from: a microcosmic opinion from a disgruntled imagination needn't have provoked you into a response. In other words ' I didn't know you cared'.

[connor]

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Celebrity Catfight # 4
« on: August 16, 2008, 07:09:13 PM »
   
Sophia Loren vs Raquel Welch in a no rules nude catfight and then they both decide to have a tit fight.  Who will win these 2 fights ?
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« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2008, 08:42:27 AM »
   
Another strange matchup.
This one was difficult to arrange, as it required Medi-Care and insurance waivers, and was conducted against the protests of the AARP and physicians for both aging women, who felt the strain might prove too much for their fragile bodies, to say nothing of their dignity. Press and paparazzi alike were aghast that  anyone in their right mind would propose a fight between the 74 year old Sophia Loren and the 68 year old Raquel Welch.

But the old broads proved to be gamers, as Pete88 knew they would. Both showed up on time, and ready to rumble. But each had a surprise in store for their unwitting opponents, as well as the witless Pete.

One look at their naked bodies sent horrified chills of regret down the spine of Pete, who in a fit of conscience and rare good taste, immediately called off the tit fight. Even the thought of these terribly sagging, once proud mammaries, rubbing against each other at waist level, made him throw up a little in his mouth.

The rules were set forth. In respect for their respective ages, and to insure the sought-after action between these slow moving seniors, each were to be allowed one weapon. Each really wanted to hurt her opponent, to really do a number on her. Raquel of course went for her cane, the result of a bad hip. She figured one, at the most two blows, and victory would be hers. How wrong she would prove to be, and at what cost.

Sophia looked at her hated rival and announced,”I’m a-gonna keep ona my bag.”

As the Italian fully stripped, the full horror of what she meant became all too apparent. She intended no removal of her bulging, obviously quite full colostomy bag.

“Come ona, you cheap Mexican whore-a”, snarled Sophia at the now very scared and hesitant Raquel. “Lets a-see what you got, you young bitch. Take-a your best swing, puta! 50 years ago, I made-a you look like a fucking boy.”
With that, Raquel swung mightily. Well, as mightily as a nearly crippled 68 year old could swing. But it was enough. The bag was split open, senior refuse was everywhere. Raquel immediately vomited, and Sophia moved in for what would prove to be a very messy kill.

Wow. Pete, that was fun. Whats next?


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I hope that they will be here.  APL Videos , JM Rolen were always good at giving us updates.
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Pete88:
    I feel compelled to let you in on a little of the proud history of this board and its posters regarding APL. It’s a unique relationship, one that merits rehashing.
   About a year ago, a firefight broke out between several posters, headed by, as I remember, Roadie and Badger, calling into question Ana Leal (APL) and her unusual attitude toward customer service. APL seemed to employ a formula of first saying, basically, “what the hell are you talking about? Are you out of your mind?”. Further bad pressure from this board would cause her to offer discounts on additional videos. It was at this point that Diogenes, and many others, stepped forward to legitimately question why in the hell anyone would want to spend an additional DIME on MORE of these videos that, in the consensus opinion of the posters, featured overweight middle aged women taking turns napping on each other. Accusations of narcoleptic non-action.
   Now Ana would bring in her advisers, who would threaten some sort of legal action against the complainants. Diogenes applied his customary thorough scrutiny to these “threats”, and Ana and APL were humiliated and retreated. You have to understand, Pete88, that there were dozens of posts back and forth, with Diogenes and others supplying cogent arguments, Badger supplying a never-ending stream of venom and Ana exposing her her contempt for her public and saying that all the contempt for her and her product was actually helping sales.. The end result was that Ana and APL were exposed for the non-caring, cynical company they were.
    There was a sort of truce for the next few months, while fighting broke out on the KAG front (best remembered for the ground-breaking "What the Fuck?" post from Ofecteau, and the sheer volume of  inspirational invective from Badger). However, any mention of APL on this board was negative, as they were held up as the standard of a piss poor company, although now joined by KAG and its corpulent hatchet man, the now legendary poster and PM'er MR._E.
    However, the cease fire was broken when yours truly lobbed a SCUD at APL. Bunk was warned by Roadie that a “ANA shitstorm” was coming his way, and to get under a desk. However, before Ana could fire, Great Britain entered the fray. From the midlands, Dionysus launched on consecutive days two nuclear missles that detonated over Portugal and drove Ana away forever. Absolute thermonuclear destruction of a kind never before or since seen. Little question they were two of the most devastating posts ever. (This also issued in the “Pax Dio”, as he went on to firebomb Badger, yaBBletsdoit [and his ladyboys], and Oxfordfights. You had to watch what you posted, and there was a certain responsible peace and civility until the crash).
     The war with Ana ended when a poll was posted, asking who was the “Greatest Blight on the Female Fighting Community”: Ana Leal or Mr._E. There were dozens of votes, and it was close until the end, or the crash.
     
     Of course, this poll was conducted prior to the appearance of Catfightreport.
     
    Pete88, I hope this gives you some perspective on the historic relationship between the posters on this board and APL.


'All in all a pretty good balance here'. THESE POSTS ARE SIDE-SPLITTING.

[bikemanrick]

I'll give my two cents, for whatever it's worth.  I agree that catfighting starts with some sort of fetish, and it does (at least in my case) start at a very young age--sometimes.  That's when it starts developing into more of a sexual fantasy over time and can actually ruin a realtionship or marriage later in life. 

I remember being five years old when I first started having wrestling fantasies between girls or women.  I think my first one involved my gym teacher versus one of the girls at school.  I think the girl was a little bigger than the gym teacher and actually beat her in arm wrestling--right before my young but extremely prurient eyes.  Additionally, in my school, the girls in gym class actually did wrestle one another.  This was back in the sixties.  I remember seeing a thin girl I liked get thrown to the mat by another girl.  It really stirred something up in me even at a such a young age.  And I, unlike some of you, am definitely more drawn to the loser.

Later on, my fantasies started involving girls I saw in school versus other women or girls.  Ultimately, I started fantasizing about girls in my school fighting older chicks.  The women were always smaller and dressed just as I liked them (tight jeans, midriffs, for example).  The girls were usually bigger--and sometimes they were big, hefty girls or tall jocks.  I later recognized that I was a big fan of domination fights.

I think I first got fixated on the clothing the girls or women were wearing.  I remember liking the tight shorts, then later I liked white jeans . . . and finally blue jeans.  But the more my fetish developed, creativity started setting in big time.  Over time, though the fetish can really be quite exhilarating, I looked at it more as a curse.  It was if I were some sort of catfighting alcoholic which, as many shrinks would say, is not normal.

I started liking magazines like Cavalier in college which had catfight stories in them.  Then my fetish grew exponentially over time with the advent of the internet.  I am a very visual person and like to use pictures in my catfight stories.  The combination of a good story accompanied by the pictures is the ultimate.

But let me just say that I, under no circumstances, enjoy violence.  I do not like to see two girls or women actually hurting one another.  And I've seen plenty of fights as both a teacher, restaurant manager and former bouncer.  It's purely fantasy for me. 

My fantasies involve taking one person from one scenario (i.e. a sexy woman at a bar in jeans) then perhaps wondering how that person would fare against one of the girls at school.  But if you've ever read some of my stories, they are not all purely made up.  The one at the restaurant actually happened.  An immense girl that worked for me actually pounded two biker chicks outside the drive-thru window.  I may have embellished a bit but it was real.  And some of the stories are based on bits and pieces of what I've actually witnessed. 

It's really weird how girls or women will start talking about fights around me.  One of my girlfriends once told me how she got thrown around by some fat girl at a bowling alley.  She was only about 110 pounds herself.  She then said, "I don't know why I just told you that."  Neither did I but I've been a magnet for this stuff for a long time.

Hope this provides you some insight, at least from one person.  Everyone's different.  Some people like nude fights, some people like a fight between two muscular women, or whatever.  But I do feel that sex and violence are very closely realted.  The actual act of sex can be rather aggressive (i.e. "I'd like to tear your clothes off.")  So we as humans are naturally drawn to struggles to some degree.  People are either submissive or dominant.  There's a word called "algolagnia" which pertains to sado-masochism.  Catfighting is more saddism.  If you like someone to beat you up or dominate you, it's masochism.  Herein lies the more visceral explanations for those who don't truly understand the catfighting fetish.

Rick   

[delh]

I have never responded to anything like this before but this is a question that I have pondered for many years.

For me I believe it is the inherent violence that excites me.  The fight has to be real and sexual in nature with total or at least partial nudity.  Breast mauling and hair pulling are important, along with the attractivness of the women.

I believe it is the violence that attracts me because as an adolecent the first erection I can remember, occured while watching two cowboys in a movie barroom fist fight.  I remember wanting to go out and find someone to fight with, just for the excitment of it.  As I matured, and the attraction of girls became powerful, I was no longer interested in seeing men fight.  The first movie that I saw with two women in a catfight, hooked me for life.

[femalewrestlingchannel]

That's interesting Delh.

I'm still compiling thoughts on this, so if some more of you could respond, that would be fantastic.

I lost my thread on Kim and Ginny's board, because I didn't save the messages before they were washed off the board.

[catfightlover67]

for myself, i find catfighting a 100% sexual thing.  when two women or ladies go at it, clutch into each others hair and go to the ground an roll up in a ball i find it so exciting.  i have a dvd from dww and has two catfight stories on it and is a story but it is real.  the girls slap hard and pull each others hair like there is no tomorrow.  the also wear short skirts and end up naked but the fighting is 100% real.  to put it nicely, i find catfighting like this more satisfying to me then porn.