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Offline Goodluck

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Aloha Suite Fights and the PolllI'm
« on: September 12, 2022, 08:27:22 PM »
Suite is going on vacation and filming, genius move Suite.  (you should write your trip off as a business expense).  He's inviting models to got to Hawaii for free and do a catfight.  The possibilities are endless.  Also, locals in Hawaii might want to jump in on the opportunity.

Also, I'm very pleased to see so many fans voting for non-nude matches in his polls.  Look, I'm not against nudity, but I can see nudity anywhere.  I'm for good looking women who aren't necessarily fetish models.  For instance Tori of east coast cats is amazing looks-wise.  I know for sure there are many girls who would do a suite fights match if it wasn't nudity.  Opens up the world for a whole lot of more girls. 

Anyway, thought I'd start a thread here for those of you without twitter to comment to Sutie Fights etc.

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« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2022, 11:32:44 PM »
Suite is going on vacation and filming, genius move Suite.  (you should write your trip off as a business expense).  He's inviting models to got to Hawaii for free and do a catfight.  The possibilities are endless.  Also, locals in Hawaii might want to jump in on the opportunity.

Also, I'm very pleased to see so many fans voting for non-nude matches in his polls.  Look, I'm not against nudity, but I can see nudity anywhere.  I'm for good looking women who aren't necessarily fetish models.  For instance Tori of east coast cats is amazing looks-wise.  I know for sure there are many girls who would do a suite fights match if it wasn't nudity.  Opens up the world for a whole lot of more girls. 

Anyway, thought I'd start a thread here for those of you without twitter to comment to Sutie Fights etc.
Super idea! Go for it as I am in.

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Re: Aloha Suite Fights and the PolllI'm
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2022, 11:52:22 PM »
Suite is going on vacation and filming, genius move Suite.  (you should write your trip off as a business expense).  He's inviting models to got to Hawaii for free and do a catfight.  The possibilities are endless.  Also, locals in Hawaii might want to jump in on the opportunity.

Also, I'm very pleased to see so many fans voting for non-nude matches in his polls.  Look, I'm not against nudity, but I can see nudity anywhere.  I'm for good looking women who aren't necessarily fetish models.  For instance Tori of east coast cats is amazing looks-wise.  I know for sure there are many girls who would do a suite fights match if it wasn't nudity.  Opens up the world for a whole lot of more girls. 

Anyway, thought I'd start a thread here for those of you without twitter to comment to Sutie Fights etc.

I was happy to see this as well. For what it is worth, Carmilla apparently lives in Hawaii and I'd imagine this likely would involve her in some way, which would be fantastic. Her and Vika both were 10/10's in their debuts and would love to see them go at it again as I feel that fight is weirdly almost underrated by the community. It's one of my all-time personal favorites. There's also been a long rumored matchup between Valentina (from Mexican Catfights) and Carmilla as well. Also, always happy to see a newbie make their debut as well. The more catfights and catfighters the merrier!

I had a post here some time ago basically talking about the nudity "requirement" for Suitefights as well. Felt there was some good discussion both ways on that front. ALL THINGS EQUAL, of course I prefer nudity in a catfight. But saying that, if that comes at the expense of GREATLY reducing the pool of talent that are willing to catfight, then I am certainly happy with not requiring it. I see these as potential advantages going forward:

- Greater pool of catfighters hopefully means a greater number of fights taking place more frequently. Fighting not nude might be a way to "dip your toes in" without doing a cannonball in the deep end if you have the potential of having your pussy mauled in your debut. More fighters mean more potential to find the next "star" and have more even matchups on paper going forward. Right now, newbies are often "fed to the wolves" and get clobbered in their debut which potentially might sour them on ever coming back.

- More fighters/fights hopefully creates more organic rivalries. Also, a larger pool of fighters might mean more scheduling flexibility and the ability to release fights on a more consistent basis. This also means more potential to "strike when the iron is hot" and have a "star" fight multiple times. I think one of the reason many of us adored Mira is she had 4(!) Suitefights fights in her first 4ish months (Jess, Lillias, Tilly, Rosalee).

- While all catfighters deserve as much money as possible, it's just a fact that Suitefights can pay less if nudity isn't required. This would hopefully reduce the the financial risk if things don't end up going well. Maybe schedule multiple fights in the same day?

- I love the idea of some fresh faced model having a non-nude catfight and wanting to come back and have a "proper" Suitefights rivalry match. Like, how much fun would it have been if Jess/Mira fought non-nude the first time and mutually agreed to raise the stakes and settle it nude in the rematch. Would be a helluva lot more tension if they're both going tit-for-tit in the prefight staredown for the first time. Sometimes it's fun to have an appetizer before the main course.

- As mentioned, all things equal, of course I prefer the "traditional" Suitefights garters/thong/topless look. But if they're not nude, we can also potentially have some fun with their outfights. For instance, could have various theme matches such as cheerleaders, schoolgirl, secretary, 80's workout attire, Hooters girl, etc. Just because they're clothed, doesn't mean they can't look sexy and not be fun! I actually really dug the opera gloves for the Jess/Stella fight.

Saying all that, things I'm not willing to compromise on are the "traditional" Suitefights production quality and the realness of the catfight. There should be nothing less intense regarding the physicality of the fights and the production values have to be there to make the fight "feel" special. While I'm here for the real catfights, a hell of a lot of the catfight fantasy is seeing two models dressed to impress in cocktail dresses getting all made up and sexy just so they can rip each other apart and get dirty minutes later.

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« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2022, 02:38:45 AM »
Suite is going on vacation and filming, genius move Suite.  (you should write your trip off as a business expense).  He's inviting models to got to Hawaii for free and do a catfight.  The possibilities are endless.  Also, locals in Hawaii might want to jump in on the opportunity.

Also, I'm very pleased to see so many fans voting for non-nude matches in his polls.  Look, I'm not against nudity, but I can see nudity anywhere.  I'm for good looking women who aren't necessarily fetish models.  For instance Tori of east coast cats is amazing looks-wise.  I know for sure there are many girls who would do a suite fights match if it wasn't nudity.  Opens up the world for a whole lot of more girls. 

Anyway, thought I'd start a thread here for those of you without twitter to comment to Sutie Fights etc.

I was happy to see this as well. For what it is worth, Carmilla apparently lives in Hawaii and I'd imagine this likely would involve her in some way, which would be fantastic. Her and Vika both were 10/10's in their debuts and would love to see them go at it again as I feel that fight is weirdly almost underrated by the community. It's one of my all-time personal favorites. There's also been a long rumored matchup between Valentina (from Mexican Catfights) and Carmilla as well. Also, always happy to see a newbie make their debut as well. The more catfights and catfighters the merrier!

I had a post here some time ago basically talking about the nudity "requirement" for Suitefights as well. Felt there was some good discussion both ways on that front. ALL THINGS EQUAL, of course I prefer nudity in a catfight. But saying that, if that comes at the expense of GREATLY reducing the pool of talent that are willing to catfight, then I am certainly happy with not requiring it. I see these as potential advantages going forward:

- Greater pool of catfighters hopefully means a greater number of fights taking place more frequently. Fighting not nude might be a way to "dip your toes in" without doing a cannonball in the deep end if you have the potential of having your pussy mauled in your debut. More fighters mean more potential to find the next "star" and have more even matchups on paper going forward. Right now, newbies are often "fed to the wolves" and get clobbered in their debut which potentially might sour them on ever coming back.

- More fighters/fights hopefully creates more organic rivalries. Also, a larger pool of fighters might mean more scheduling flexibility and the ability to release fights on a more consistent basis. This also means more potential to "strike when the iron is hot" and have a "star" fight multiple times. I think one of the reason many of us adored Mira is she had 4(!) Suitefights fights in her first 4ish months (Jess, Lillias, Tilly, Rosalee).

- While all catfighters deserve as much money as possible, it's just a fact that Suitefights can pay less if nudity isn't required. This would hopefully reduce the the financial risk if things don't end up going well. Maybe schedule multiple fights in the same day?

- I love the idea of some fresh faced model having a non-nude catfight and wanting to come back and have a "proper" Suitefights rivalry match. Like, how much fun would it have been if Jess/Mira fought non-nude the first time and mutually agreed to raise the stakes and settle it nude in the rematch. Would be a helluva lot more tension if they're both going tit-for-tit in the prefight staredown for the first time. Sometimes it's fun to have an appetizer before the main course.

- As mentioned, all things equal, of course I prefer the "traditional" Suitefights garters/thong/topless look. But if they're not nude, we can also potentially have some fun with their outfights. For instance, could have various theme matches such as cheerleaders, schoolgirl, secretary, 80's workout attire, Hooters girl, etc. Just because they're clothed, doesn't mean they can't look sexy and not be fun! I actually really dug the opera gloves for the Jess/Stella fight.

Saying all that, things I'm not willing to compromise on are the "traditional" Suitefights production quality and the realness of the catfight. There should be nothing less intense regarding the physicality of the fights and the production values have to be there to make the fight "feel" special. While I'm here for the real catfights, a hell of a lot of the catfight fantasy is seeing two models dressed to impress in cocktail dresses getting all made up and sexy just so they can rip each other apart and get dirty minutes later.
All great points and spot on. With all what you stated, a must for me is that the ladies are equally matched with similar body times. Not 5'1' vs 5'6" or 115lbs. vs 140. 2" or 10lbs. difference is fine.

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Re: Aloha Suite Fights and the PolllI'm
« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2022, 03:46:37 AM »
Easily the first question a girl will ask is, will there be nudity.  After they hear "yes", 80-90% will say nope.

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Re: Aloha Suite Fights and the PolllI'm
« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2022, 03:56:41 AM »
Another question(s). Is hairpulling and slapping allowed? Gonna go 70/30 yes.

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Re: Aloha Suite Fights and the PolllI'm
« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2022, 06:11:28 AM »
Suite is going on vacation and filming, genius move Suite.  (you should write your trip off as a business expense).  He's inviting models to got to Hawaii for free and do a catfight.  The possibilities are endless.  Also, locals in Hawaii might want to jump in on the opportunity.

Also, I'm very pleased to see so many fans voting for non-nude matches in his polls.  Look, I'm not against nudity, but I can see nudity anywhere.  I'm for good looking women who aren't necessarily fetish models.  For instance Tori of east coast cats is amazing looks-wise.  I know for sure there are many girls who would do a suite fights match if it wasn't nudity.  Opens up the world for a whole lot of more girls. 

Anyway, thought I'd start a thread here for those of you without twitter to comment to Sutie Fights etc.

A Suite fights style match in bra and panties (not thongs) would totally sell me.
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Re: Aloha Suite Fights and the PolllI'm
« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2022, 10:26:09 AM »
It really depends with the non nudity concept.
 
I wont buy a hairpulling in long jeans match.
If the girls are self conscious of nudity and they  hold back if their tit falls out= not really that interested.

Suitefights has a winning formula and product so why change it and divide rhe paying fan base? Great that he is travelling around and filming new stuff.

Taking the american girls to hawai vs the native  tanned exotic girls sounds incredible.

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Re: Aloha Suite Fights and the PolllI'm
« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2022, 05:10:16 PM »
So all is fine. Everybody is ready for non nudity.
Just one question is there really a market for it ? And you ! Are you ready to pay the same price for a non nudity catfight ?
It s like saving the planet. Everybody says yes but when confronted with individual decisions like not traveling xx miles by plane for vacation. most people choose pleasure over saving earth.
Personnaly nudity or non nudity is a non choice. After nearly 50 years of collecting catfight materials I may say I have seen both nude or non nude great scenes. Similarly I have seen very boring one in either attire or nudity.
Intensity of the fight and fighters vista is for me the main reason to buy a clip.
So the question remains "is there a real bunch of customers ready to pay for non nudity?"
There is a huge market for it, 274 votes on the twitter and non-nude is leading the way 70% to 30%.  The girls suite has had so far are good looking, but you can get even better looking and more variety girls with non-nude.  There is more chance for emotion with non-nudity, also more chance for really in shape girls to try it in my opinion.

But, yes, I'd pay the same or more if the matches were intense.  Literally though non-nude gigs offered to the public would get 60% more women willing to try it.  Nudity is a big issue for models or even bartenders, waitresses, hooters girls etc.

The "sure I'll try it" crowd exists for non-nude or bikini matches.  Nudity is great, but you're only going to get nude models, fetish models, porn stars, etc. usually who will participate no matter what the amount of money Suite would pay.

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Re: Aloha Suite Fights and the PolllI'm
« Reply #9 on: September 13, 2022, 06:50:50 PM »
It really depends with the non nudity concept.
 
I wont buy a hairpulling in long jeans match.
If the girls are self conscious of nudity and they  hold back if their tit falls out= not really that interested.

Suitefights has a winning formula and product so why change it and divide rhe paying fan base? Great that he is travelling around and filming new stuff.

Taking the american girls to hawai vs the native  tanned exotic girls sounds incredible.    I like your take on the none nude topic. Many i believe haven't voted in favor of none nudity only just not voted but prefer nudity. Personally i like the current format of SF and its solid. I feel also he will divide his fan base in the process.

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Re: Aloha Suite Fights and the PolllI'm
« Reply #10 on: September 13, 2022, 07:08:39 PM »
So all is fine. Everybody is ready for non nudity.
Just one question is there really a market for it ? And you ! Are you ready to pay the same price for a non nudity catfight ?
It s like saving the planet. Everybody says yes but when confronted with individual decisions like not traveling xx miles by plane for vacation. most people choose pleasure over saving earth.
Personnaly nudity or non nudity is a non choice. After nearly 50 years of collecting catfight materials I may say I have seen both nude or non nude great scenes. Similarly I have seen very boring one in either attire or nudity.
Intensity of the fight and fighters vista is for me the main reason to buy a clip.
So the question remains "is there a real bunch of customers ready to pay for non nudity?"




In reality What will happen is a fight will be announced, and the first thing asked is will it be nude or clothed and customers will decide right there if their going to buy or not. Where as prior to this a fight by SF would be bought without question. Your absolutely right that a fight foremost has to be intense for it to be worth anything but without it being nude or partially nude for me it will just be a fight not hot. And SF fights are hot as they stand for me.

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Re: Aloha Suite Fights and the PolllI'm
« Reply #11 on: September 13, 2022, 07:18:13 PM »
It really depends with the non nudity concept.
 
I wont buy a hairpulling in long jeans match.
If the girls are self conscious of nudity and they  hold back if their tit falls out= not really that interested.

Suitefights has a winning formula and product so why change it and divide rhe paying fan base? Great that he is travelling around and filming new stuff.

Taking the american girls to hawai vs the native  tanned exotic girls sounds incredible.    I like your take on the none nude topic. Many i believe haven't voted in favor of none nudity only just not voted but prefer nudity. Personally i like the current format of SF and its solid. I feel also he will divide his fan base in the process.
No way, people who prefer nudity would just not vote at all in a significant number compared to the ones not voting who would also buy non-nude, the relevant part is non-nudity is fine with customers....277 votes now 70% would purchase a non-nude fight.
« Last Edit: September 13, 2022, 07:19:30 PM by Goodluck »

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Re: Aloha Suite Fights and the PolllI'm
« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2022, 07:21:28 PM »
So all is fine. Everybody is ready for non nudity.
Just one question is there really a market for it ? And you ! Are you ready to pay the same price for a non nudity catfight ?
It s like saving the planet. Everybody says yes but when confronted with individual decisions like not traveling xx miles by plane for vacation. most people choose pleasure over saving earth.
Personnaly nudity or non nudity is a non choice. After nearly 50 years of collecting catfight materials I may say I have seen both nude or non nude great scenes. Similarly I have seen very boring one in either attire or nudity.
Intensity of the fight and fighters vista is for me the main reason to buy a clip.
So the question remains "is there a real bunch of customers ready to pay for non nudity?"




In reality What will happen is a fight will be announced, and the first thing asked is will it be nude or clothed and customers will decide right there if their going to buy or not. Where as prior to this a fight by SF would be bought without question. Your absolutely right that a fight foremost has to be intense for it to be worth anything but without it being nude or partially nude for me it will just be a fight not hot. And SF fights are hot as they stand for me.
That is hypothetical, the only real evidence we have that isn't hypothetical is now there are 277 voters and 70% would buy a non-nude fight.  That's impressive.  And, I'd bet quite a few of those who said they wouldn't would give in to the pressure to buy any suite fights fight, if they are a fan.  277 votes is pretty impressive too, the fans have spoken.

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Re: Aloha Suite Fights and the PolllI'm
« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2022, 07:54:50 PM »
So all is fine. Everybody is ready for non nudity.
Just one question is there really a market for it ? And you ! Are you ready to pay the same price for a non nudity catfight ?
It s like saving the planet. Everybody says yes but when confronted with individual decisions like not traveling xx miles by plane for vacation. most people choose pleasure over saving earth.
Personnaly nudity or non nudity is a non choice. After nearly 50 years of collecting catfight materials I may say I have seen both nude or non nude great scenes. Similarly I have seen very boring one in either attire or nudity.
Intensity of the fight and fighters vista is for me the main reason to buy a clip.
So the question remains "is there a real bunch of customers ready to pay for non nudity?"




In reality What will happen is a fight will be announced, and the first thing asked is will it be nude or clothed and customers will decide right there if their going to buy or not. Where as prior to this a fight by SF would be bought without question. Your absolutely right that a fight foremost has to be intense for it to be worth anything but without it being nude or partially nude for me it will just be a fight not hot. And SF fights are hot as they stand for me.
That is hypothetical, the only real evidence we have that isn't hypothetical is now there are 277 voters and 70% would buy a non-nude fight.  That's impressive.  And, I'd bet quite a few of those who said they wouldn't would give in to the pressure to buy any suite fights fight, if they are a fan.  277 votes is pretty impressive too, the fans have spoken.


I hope you are right for SF and for the fans that current like his current product.

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Re: Aloha Suite Fights and the PolllI'm
« Reply #14 on: September 13, 2022, 08:17:09 PM »
So all is fine. Everybody is ready for non nudity.
Just one question is there really a market for it ? And you ! Are you ready to pay the same price for a non nudity catfight ?
It s like saving the planet. Everybody says yes but when confronted with individual decisions like not traveling xx miles by plane for vacation. most people choose pleasure over saving earth.
Personnaly nudity or non nudity is a non choice. After nearly 50 years of collecting catfight materials I may say I have seen both nude or non nude great scenes. Similarly I have seen very boring one in either attire or nudity.


Intensity of the fight and fighters vista is for me the main reason to buy a clip.
So the question remains "is there a real bunch of customers ready to pay for non nudity?"




In reality What will happen is a fight will be announced, and the first thing asked is will it be nude or clothed and customers will decide right there if their going to buy or not. Where as prior to this a fight by SF would be bought without question. Your absolutely right that a fight foremost has to be intense for it to be worth anything but without it being nude or partially nude for me it will just be a fight not hot. And SF fights are hot as they stand for me.
That is hypothetical, the only real evidence we have that isn't hypothetical is now there are 277 voters and 70% would buy a non-nude fight.  That's impressive.  And, I'd bet quite a few of those who said they wouldn't would give in to the pressure to buy any suite fights fight, if they are a fan.  277 votes is pretty impressive too, the fans have spoken.


I hope you are right for SF and for the fans that current like his current product.
He wills still make the nude ones too, there's just more opportunity for non-nude.  We can all see nude girls just going to a bar and picking them up.   Nudity is also online.  Catfights are the niche, the rare event.

Also, it's easier to get girlfriends to try this out if it isn't nude  That was the genesis of ECNWC, guys bringing in wives/girlfriends.   I'm waiting for the Suite Fights fan base to bring some in, come on guys, do your part!