re: steved0109
I know what you want in a catfight because you detailed this in a previous message, remember?
Let me get this right. You're saying a brilliant classic ECNWC catfight like Brittany vs. Gemma, or Vira vs. Summer is a poor catfight because it's 30 minutes long. You really don't have a single clue about catfights do you. Anyone reading what you just wrote must think you're an idiot for saying any catfight beyond one submission is a poor catfight.
Erm, one question, and I'm quite sure by the way you write that there's a high probability that you are a patsy for CCC who is just artificially bumping this thread for promotional reasons to keep it high on the forum list as opposed to writing what you actually believe. If CCC have the highest charting catfight at the moment, do you genuinely believe this demonstrates that catfights below 5 minutes in length are what fans really want? Or could it be for the following reasons too:
1) It's a new release.
2) Fans don't actually know it's a catfight less than 5 minutes in length.
3) The girls are very good looking.
4) The very cheap price.
Why do you assume that it's the fact that the catfight is less than 5 minutes in length that is its main selling point? How do you explain why I bought this very same catfight? Are you really so daft as to assume that I purchased it because I love sub 5 minute length catfights? If so, how do you explain that everything I have wrote so far is to the contrary. You're clutching at straws Steve and what you write is extremely naive and ill worked out bordering on plain dumb.
And Steve, or should I call you now 'CCC thread bumping promo patsy'. You misquote me. I'm saying catfighters are paid a set amount for doing a catfight not based on $ per submission or a $ per minute rate based on how long the catfight lasts. Accept this, it's a set payment agreed prior to the catfight taking place, not based on how many submissions or the time the catfight lasts. That's how the industry works if you didn't know. And if you believe otherwise, i.e. if you assume catfighters are paid on a per minute pay scale that can vary depending on how long the catfights turns out to be, you are completely wrong. It's all done on a pre-arranged payment. So what you say is complete hogwash and again has no existence in the real world.
By the way, I do agree with one thing that you said, and I quote:
'I have no idea what they pay'.
That is quite obvious from the way you write which seems to be the scribblings of a complete ignoramus on the subject of the way catfighters are paid by producers. Stop making yourself look like an idiot Steve, it's embarrassing. Oh, and by the way, you're not doing CCC any favours arguing like this, it will inevitably result in this thread being locked for thread bumping which is against one of the many managerial rules this forum has and thrives on enforcing with great glee and enthusiasm when its got bugger all else to do.
Like I said, don't speak on subjects you clearly know nothing about. A fool would do exactly what you are doing. I said, the girls are told what they will be paid prior to the catfight taking place. It's a set payment. So when you write things like:
'and are cool with CCC telling them they might fight for five minutes or 60 minutes? These models are paid professionals. I'm guessing they are smarter than that.'
You sound like an absolute simpleton. The catfighters know how long the match will be because the producer tells them what amount of time is expected of them to fight, and how much the payment for this catfight will be. How difficult is that for you to understand you half wit? They are not paid on a per minute rate with an open ended variable catfight time. You're living in a very stupid fantasy world if you believe that Steve.
Steve, can I just point something out to you as your memory seems to be very poor and not focussed on what I have said at all. Let me first of all quote myself from earlier:
1) Pollman: 'Constructive feedback No.1: I do think that ending a catfight after one submission is missing out on the potential for much more catfighting from the very sexy girls you use.'
2) Pollman: 'This catfight is good, but the producer's choice of artificially ending it after one single submission seems such a missed opportunity for further catfighting from these sexy girls'
3) Pollman: 'Q. 'Would you like the producer to end a catfight you are really enjoying after one submission?'
4) Pollman: 'So the obvious question would be why stop a very good catfight after the first submission, if that's the exact opposite of what a catfight fan wants?'
5) Pollman: '...and end the fight with finality after the first submission.'
6) Pollman: 'If what you were saying had any connection to reality then we would not have any catfights beyond one submission, '
7) Pollman: 'I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here Steve in arguing for arranged rules catfights to stop when the first submission is achieved.'
That's seven, count them, seven quotes from me complaining that the catfights are stopped after the first submission. Now let's take a look at what you are now informing me in your last message:
Steve CCC thread bumping promo patsy wrote: 'You are also assuming that CCC is telling them to stop. They stop when one submits.'
So Steve, tell me, what are you telling me that I have not already said seven times previously myself? i.e. that the catfight is stopped after the first submission? You're sounding like an idiot who is desperately trying (unsuccessfully) to save face instead of actually reading what has been wrote.
Also you state that previous CCC catfights have been unsuccessful in sales compared to this sub 5 minute one submission catfight. Are you basing this on inside knowledge of CCC sales of previous titles, or are you making a massive assumption? Please do tell?
Your suggestion that I stop purchasing CCC catfights is rather strange. It seems you oppose catfight fans giving a company some constructive feedback about what they would like to see. CCC themselves have previously acknowledged that they welcome constructive feedback. I personally see a catfight that looked amazing, it transpired to be an amazing little catfight, but was stopped prematurely after one submission for no good reason other than a personal whim on the part of the producer that I believe does not represent the majority taste of what catfights fans want from producers. That does not make this mini short sub 5 minute catfight a poor catfight. It just indicates the thrill, excitement, intensity and pleasure of watching these two sexy women tussle and pull hair with each other could have gone on naturally a lot longer than it did with further submissions for the catfight fan's pleasure.
It seems however, you would prefer fans like me and many more catfight fans to stop purchasing CCC titles and take our money elsewhere to fund producers who make 15 mins + catfights.
I disagree with you Steve, I would hope that the producer(s) would be intelligent enough to take on board constructive criticism about their fans preferences and requests. I think your suggestion of me boycotting CCC is a rather dumb one in comparison, and merely shows you up for how idiotic your argument has become.
